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yogthos
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t2_73rg
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Why not start with something interactive like [Quil](http://quil.info/sketches/local/c8a0c07b009b4f5d29e5a30e444ffc741fd99ccef22598ddc78bf0f5ca8571af).
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combinatorylogic
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t2_iab4d
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> But how else will you know if the interpreter is performing basic math correctly or not without unit tests?
Lol at believing that unit tests will ensure a correctness for you.
For the basic arithmetic you *must* do a formal verification.
For the more complex things you must do a stress integration testing.
E.g., in my line of business, [csmith](https://embed.cs.utah.edu/csmith/) is among the best testing tools available. Good luck catching this twisted kind of bugs with your synthetic unit tests.
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google_you
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t2_nc9gy
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# FUCK ON CALL CRAP
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megaboz
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t2_4jijb
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Also the other Shaltanac's joopleberry shrub is always a more mauvey shade of pinky russet.
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hauntedbotanist
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Who even uses jQuery anymore? That a sure fire way to show a JS hiring manager that you haven't kept up
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CWSwapigans
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t2_bxvkg
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Are you suggesting that’s proof sexism doesn’t exist in the software industry?
Also, have you worked in the software industry?
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hasen-judy
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t2_2j2as8va
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Really?
NPM build tools suck.
Android build tools suck
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crashorbit
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t2_3z9ie
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I did not see mention of interactive text editors or IDE in the list. Did I overlook it embedded in something else?
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pjpartridge
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https://www.wikiwand.com/en/List_of_commercial_video_games_with_available_source_code
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/r/programming/comments/a2m3hj/original_sources_of_ultimate_tapan_kaikki_90s/eazxitv/
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NotSoButFarOtherwise
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t2_1ha8wt1w
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As years of school and media consumption have taught me, f you don't wear a suit and work 9-5 in an office, you don't have a real job.
/s
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SimonGray
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t2_2xgjv
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They even spec'ed it...
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combinatorylogic
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t2_iab4d
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> you have to test for all possible inputs with component A
As if unit testing is covering "all possible inputs".
With an integration testing done properly you'll have a much better coverage and a much wider range of input states tested for every single component.
> you have some semblance of assurance
The word you're looking for is "*delusion*".
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malkarouri
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t2_3dgi4
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I guess you are seeing very different Java and Python communities than me. My guess is you interact with senior Java developers and junior Python ones. So you are looking at the Python equivalent of Uncle Bob readers.
Of course, I agree about Clojure, Kotlin and Scala.
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CWSwapigans
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t2_bxvkg
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Can you cite the affirmative action statute that would encourage a company to hire a woman over a man? I’ve never seen such a thing.
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t5_2fwo
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SeerUD
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t2_a10e2
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Honestly, I agree. Errors in Go are fundamentally flawed - which is why many people have chosen to use libraries like pkg/errors, or write their own (e.g. upspin.io/errors). This is something they're looking to address with "Go 2" (which may come before there is ever an actual Go 2.0.0).
I would prefer something similar to functional languages, e.g. an `Either` type, or at least for them to provide more error-related functionality built in (e.g. wrapping, and testing error behaviour).
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quad99
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t2_rglxe
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yea, this stuff is hard. in my numerical methods class, besides the algorithms themselves, the focus was on determining the precision and error bounds. and also proving a bunch of it. not easy.
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t5_2fwo
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jesp3r
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t2_5wtnm
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A framework that no one else who has to maintain it knows, without the performance and security optimizations... I mean, that's the whole reason for frameworks, right?
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CWSwapigans
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t2_bxvkg
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I work on the business side and maybe I’ve been unlucky, but having worked many many places I find that more devs than not are totally blind to how little they know about my areas of expertise.
*Everyone* thinks they know how to run a business for some reason. And most people’s instincts are wrong most of the time.
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thomasz
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t2_3pdba
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It's literally ``dotnet publish -c release -r linux-x64`` then scp the stuff, and run the executable there. I really cannot understand how that's more complicated to setup than flask.
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crashorbit
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t2_3z9ie
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Fortran, Lisp and Cobol make the list for being the first implementations that capture a core concept. At best C is a refinement of the same concept that Fortran opened the door too.
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nutrecht
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> Incorrect, React is a library.
Generally a framework is described as something that forms the foundation of your application where replacing it with another similar framework would require a ton of refactoring.
This is definitely the case for React, Angular and Vue. Moving between them would mean more or less a complete rewrite.
It's silly to have your own definition just to score internet points. By the de-facto definition React is a framework.
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scumbaggio
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t2_jwlsl2k
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Why does it matter? They're probably not a native speaker, that shouldn't say anything about how well they maintain a compiler.
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robolab-io
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My next project will be using a single framework. I made the mistake of using 3 in one project and now most of my development time is bouncing between framework errors.
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Misspelt
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you sound like an entitled douchebag who's never experienced problems, therefore they must not exist.
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AngularBeginner
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functionless of course. Just write dedicated single statements.
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lrem
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Come to Google. Our managers tend to be developers who've been hit with "oh, manager is leaving, I guess it's your turn now". Edit: we *also* hire managers from the outside. But, as a policy, they need to be current in the tech. To prove that, they do get added to the oncall rotations.
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monkey-go-code
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t2_m78zzef
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to be fair I rarely meet a developer who doesn’t think their code is better than everyone else’s.
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jgcoded
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This is similar to Microsoft's Quick Assist, except that you can also control the other person's computer with Quick Assist. I'm hoping that WebRTC will one day support input injection.
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yogthos
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t2_73rg
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Frameworkless approach was what got me into using Clojure for web dev originally. The whole ecosystem is based around having general purpose libraries that you can put together any way you like. I find that frameworks add a lot of complexity because they have to be designed in a way that accommodates many potential use cases. So, when you're using a framework you're inheriting the complexity that's not needed for your particular project. At the same time, the framework forces you to structure your app the way that makes sense to the author of the framework, and not necessarily that way that makes sense for your app.
When you're working with libraries, you can easily structure your application for the specific problem you're solving. You're doing all the wiring explicitly in your code, so you can structure things the way that make sense to you.
One downside of this approach is that you have to know how to put things together, what libraries to use, and create some initial boilerplate. The way Clojure ecosystem addresses these problems is by providing templates that are used to generate a skeleton project. I've found this to be a really good compromise.
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EnergyOfLight
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Yes, you're mostly right. Though there are better lossy formats than MP3 in this regard; literally everyone has switched to using AAC, which is less terrible at lower bitrates.
Keep in mind that the actual 'captured sound' coming out of a file still has a long way to go before reaching your ear; there's always a weakest link, be it in consumer-but-not-highend tier electronics or even your OS itself.
If you really want to convince people that lossless audio actually exists and matters, [spek](http://spek.cc) is a cool quick-and-dirty spectrogram tool.
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t2_a10e2
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As above, I will direct you to the official React documentation: https://reactjs.org/
> A JavaScript library for building user interfaces
This is not a technicality, I have also given an example above of how React is not a framework. React is very dissimilar to Angular in particular, because Angular is most definitely a framework, it does provide everything OOB.
> Generally a framework is described as something that forms the foundation of your application where replacing it with another similar framework would require a ton of refactoring.
See the website I linked above, it is not built around React, React is a small part of the frontend in this case. I'm sure many other places have done something similar.
React however is a view library.
Edit: Also:
> Generally a framework is described as something that forms the foundation of your application where replacing it with another similar framework would require a ton of refactoring. [...] This is definitely the case for React, Angular and Vue. Moving between them would mean more or less a complete rewrite.
While true, you could argue that about most templating libraries. It would be difficult to replace Twig in a Symfony application with plain PHP templates, both are options you can adopt, but nobody would call Twig a framework now, would they?
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mmstick
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There are also efforts to:
- [Make hash maps faster with the hashbrown (SwissTable) implementation](https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/56241)
- [Make mutexes and locks faster with the parking_lot implementation](https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/56410)
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It's not "hard", it's just stupid and overengineered (which is nearly unavoidable for any evolved standard with backward compatibility).
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The level of confidence you have smells delusional.
"The might of C++"
What? lol
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I read Firefox 64 as Starfox 64 and was wondering when the source code of the game was released.
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>which are best for the given problems
Some of the "given problems" that devs often miss but are still important. For that language or tool:
* How easy is it to find a replacement programmer (perhaps in your region if that's important)?
* How much do expert programmers charge?
* How long does it take to train tech staff?
* How active is the support community when you need help?
* Does it have a future or is it just a fad? Coffeescript comes to mind.
* How does having it as part of your stack effect your ability to attract new members of staff?
Did I miss any? These are real concerns any business should take into consideration but when devs are the only ones involved in making that decision they often are overly optimistic about the answers.
EDIT: I'm just trying to be helpful and share my knowledge. If you disagree, that's cool, I might learn something. But how about a comment instead of just a meaningless downvote?
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Who the fuck told you that you would make millions of dollars or become a VP at a multi-billion dollar company just by learning to code? I'm sorry your expectations are/were so horribly out-of-whack with reality, but the industry is not a "scam" because of it.
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aradil
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I did the same thing for a programming competition in university. Forced to use PHP and there were no XML parsing libraries loaded into Apache so most teams just gave up; we implemented it from scratch and finished the whole project.
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ERROR ESTABLISHING A DATABASE CONNECTION REEE
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jl2352
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Someone new to programming would be best using mainstream languages and tools for web development IMO.
That is not the same as saying no one can ever be productive in Lisp.
You are also taking this whole discussion very personally.
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Yes, but you can also expect any modern consumer product (like a cell phone or laptop) to have a frequency response that extends higher than 15k
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nutrecht
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It's not the normal way of handling 'exceptions'; in Go you return (actual, error) and in every layer above you check for an error and pass it on if you can't handle this. Exceptions are exactly this, but done automatically for you (exceptions are just return values that travel up the stack automatically).
The problem with the approach Go uses is that it's hard to let the framework translate these errors to for example HTTP response codes. Try implementing something like Spring's ControllerAdvice error handling in Go.
This is just one of the things you run into if you start using Go for actual production software; the 'unhappy' flows are often more 'work' than the happy flows. And that's where Go's lack of code reuse makes writing clean code a lot harder.
I'm not passing personal judgement on Go devs; if you enjoy it awesome. If you're more productive in Go than in Kotlin; awesome. I'm not :)
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Damn is a profane word, even by my atheist standards.
Anybody who thinks crap is also profane is a dumbass.
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nomnommish
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>I once had someone tell me it's disappointing that I can't write F# at work just because my colleagues don't understand it. I mean really? Maybe 1 in a thousand .NET devs knows F#. How insane would it be for me to start writing code no one in my company can understand. Not all programming languages can be learned in a week.
The point being made is a bit different though. If you're trying to do something specialized and if a language excels in that, then it might be worthwhile using that language even if most others in the company do not understand it.
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I always say that beautiful code doesn’t survive business requirements. No matter how elegant your solution starts, you inevitably end up poking holes into it for a dozen different highly specific edge cases.
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asymptotically508
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`assert(4 + 2 == 7, 'PHP 7 is 2 major versions past PHP 4');`
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Today's leaderboard is better though, the 100th did both stars in 10 minutes... Anyways, you're right, fun is fun :)
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Dwedit
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Absolute DLL paths sound like a disaster.
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> my weight or my clothes might (will!) have an impact on the perceived quality of the software I build. (Or, in other words, that this is not really a meritocracy, and doing a good job is not nearly enough.)
This is in any field where you have to interact with people. It's not an unfair assumption that someone that doesn't take care of themselves would produce sub-par results.
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> The argument should be about the end user and programmer experience and not about how resources are wasted or saved.
It is...
I can't believe how user-hostile JavaScript programmers are while *pretending to be exactly the opposite*. Users care about performance, even if they can't articulate it. That's been established.
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Source on that? All I can find is that the frequency bands above 16kHz get treated differently by encoder, but they still get encoded where necessary. And the lowpass filter cutoff range depends on the encoder settings.
http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=LAME#Technical_information
That's before we get into the fact that youtube doesn't even use mp3...
Also downvotes for asking a legitimate question, really?
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I mean open vscode, it takes under 1 second. Open a TS file and you get autocomplete, and all the jazz with zero lag. Not sure how the exprerience can be ”faster”? Humans dont precieve time so fast that you actually will see a difference.
Is there a serious Tcl/Tk editor with the samekind of tooling vscode has? Would love to try it out and compre.
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Not necessarily-- compiler bugs *do* exist.
If one exists in gcc/clang but not the other you're fucked. Hell even minor version differences of the same compiler/libc can cause unforeseen bugs.
For example once I found a case in which the same code on glibc 2.19/GCC 6.4 would work fine, but glibc 2.24/GCC 6.3 would smash the stack (regardless of what the user input was).
It *has* happened before, and it undoubtedly will happen again. Since then I've never taken the chance.
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I've honestly never really found comments to be that helpful. Am I doing something wrong? I would say overall comments have added more confusion to my life than clarity and in 90% of the cases, comments become outdated. You can say to enforce comment changes on code reviews but this implies your legacy code already had good comments. All it takes is 1 code review to miss a comment and that comment is now out of date too.
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combinatorylogic
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> Someone new to programming would be best using mainstream languages and tools for web development IMO.
This is not what you originally said though.
And this is also a very questionable position. Firstly, as I said, exposing a beginner to such a shit-show as the entire web stack is very irresponsible, and secondly, they won't learn anything useful with the mainstream stack anyway, will only go deeper into their mythical thinking.
> You are also taking this whole discussion very personally.
I'm a *user*. I, personally, suffer from the shitty software that barely educated idiots write. Along with hundreds of millions other users. Of course I'm taking incompetence of the people I depend on personally.
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But only if you're an engine.
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> I think the general advice I would give is to write what you want to write yourself, and use a package for anything else you don't really feel like implementing.
I mean....
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Tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people got in to software because Silicon Valley "thought leaders" and "luminaries" said, "It doesn't matter if your startup fails, because you'll have learned so much that you'll be hirable anywhere." Having to settle for the VP-level 9-to-5 was the consolation prize. Paul Graham built Y Combinator literally by pumping out that message and building up a fanbase. There was a time when "New Economy" was said without bitterness, but optimism.
However, none of it's true.
In retrospect, I should have stayed in quant finance. It has its problems, and ultimately statistical arbitrage isn't the most inspiring vocation in the world. Intelligence is at least respected there, though. Meanwhile, for all of tech's pretenses of meritocracy, you can have a 130, 140, even 150+ IQ and still have to do Scrum. I know IMO Gold medalists who've been PIPed over story point bullshit, because this industry doesn't have enough true talent to recognize such at scale (yes, there are islands of meritocracy... good luck landing in one).
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> Logging, metrics, tracing, security, interceptors, health endpoints, integration tests, configuration, dependency injects, etc.
Most languages have great libraries for all of these. I don't think anyone is arguing for reinventing the wheel. Just that frameworks aren't always needed when it's so easy to import good libraries that do exactly what you need.
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TheSeaISail
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>And that's exactly the kind of attitude that we're trying to tell you is wrong.
I disagree. Again I have to stress that I don't think you should be coding around the clock to be any good, but I think if you never do any coding outside of what's required for work then by design you won't be as good as other people who do their own projects too.
Just like if you had an architect or a fashion designer who never drew a sketch on a scrap of paper, or a writer who only ever wrote when it was required for money. They just won't be as good as the people who practise in their own time too.
>who think that they don't have any bias in hiring, that they only judge someone based on their ability and nothing else
But that is what happens. Your problem seems to be that you think people's prospects shouldn't be impacted by not having the same amount of time as other people, which is not an easy problem for employers. Are you telling me that if you had the option of hiring someone who works on lots of cool side projects in their own time, you would pass because it's not fair for others that they have the time to do that?
> They contribute to the huge problem of lack of diversity in the field without realizing it.
What does this even mean? Are women and minorities not capable of coding outside of office hours?
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What is the advantage of this program? Is it related to clickonce technology?
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daroons
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Usually for me its more like “who the hell thought this would be a good design?!... oh”
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fuckin_ziggurats
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I'm all for using the right tool for the job, but only if it's financially viable. I can't rewrite a module in F# just to make it a bit more performant when at the same time I'd be affecting its bus factor tenfold. I need to take in consideration how much the company will spend on teaching others or hiring someone to maintain it when I'm inevitably gone.
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Generally affirmative action is seen through company diversity metrics where they hire with the intent of increasing diversity which means avoiding hiring white males.
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LayosPOE
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the shining beacon of a professional society showing his true colors
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combinatorylogic
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Maybe - the most fanatical ones are often the most vocal. My problem with the Python community though is that Guido himself is more on a fanatical than sensible side, while Gosling and the other most visible Java gurus are pretty sensible in comparison.
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combinatorylogic
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The fact that incompetent impostors are regarded with an utter contempt by the professionals whom they're undermining is surprising to you? Web "developers" made the entire profession look bad.
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This is a strange comment, i agree with one half and completely disagree with the rest of it. Choosing the right tool for the job is really important, but usually the decision is already made for you if you join a team nobody will ask you what you think is right - right is what is already in use and what everyone else uses and understands.
But if you ever have to decide what the best tool is your questions are fucking important and you can't give general advice about it because it depends on tons of stuff. The best tool has to be available, it needs to be future proof, it needs to satisfy specific requirements. Sometimes the best tool to get to Los Angeles and back might be a Hammer because if you just do it once you probably don't want to buy a plane and teach somebody how to fly it. The question what the best tool is, is really complicated and even though you might want a clearer answer there just is none that fits all problems.
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likesthinkystuff
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Haven't seen that one before. That's some pretty deep shit. Thanks for sharing
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Aetheus
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That's still tolerable for actual web development, but clunky as hell for SQL. Try to execute a query simpler than "fetch from this table where ID is 5" and suddenly you're writing dozens and dozens of lines of code just to implement a simple, common place search feature.
Much of which you'll probably have to duplicate when you want to execute a similar query. Or you'll have to handroll your own "repository" (although don't call it that, or you'll be laughed at because Silly Billy this isn't Javaland).
It doesn't help that existing Golang ORMs aren't very mature and are often type-unsafe, which only lends more wood to the "anything that isn't handrolled is literally Satan" bonfire.
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PrecipitateUpvote
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„Error establishing a database connection“ :(
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saltupz
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A novice can still get stuff done in electron. My point is its a good gateway for more serious desktop apps.
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heili
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I am a software engineer and I'm female and this has never happened to me.
I have had other women attempt to steal my ideas and present them as their own.
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32BitLongSucks
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t2_qqcxn
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and afterwards delete it to make sure you'll never tempt yourself on using that big fat security risk. It's an interesting project and not even complicated but to do it right would require too much work unless you just want something really small and simple.
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duhace
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> it doesn't. Workers have rights, agency and can quit. Slaves don't.
that is the stupidest thing i've read in a while. congratulations
> Fuck'em. And I find beating around the bush and avoiding words "offensive", but I don't see you worrying about my feefees.
don't ask anyone to respect your feelings when you clearly don't respect others'
> Offense is taken not given and "slave" is just a run of the mill word with a well-defined meaning. It's not "Voldemort" nor "beetlejuice" from a book or a movie. Nothing is going to happen if you see/hear it.
for people who've suffered trauma, certain stimuli can dredge that up and cause them pain. of course, you've already made it clear that you don't care about how others feel and will invent idiotic excuses for why you need to continue being an asshole, so that point is no doubt lost on you
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tdammers
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That must be one of the weird aspects of what "salaried" means in the US. The on-call duty may be considered included in the salary, but the simple fact remains that programming labor is a seller's market, and no matter how you look at it, doing a job with on-call duty for the same salary is less attractive and thus puts the company in a worse hiring position. You can either accept that, or pay the developers more to make up for it. The "free labor" logic would only really hold up in a situation where wages are union-dictated, and jobs are so scarce that employees can't be picky. Neither is the case for programming, though.
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phillijw
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It's really not. Only inexperienced programmers say this.
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wllmsaccnt
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I mean to create a staging or production environment, which would should act as a publish target and be hosted in a service container with the recommended edge protections (IIS or nginx are still recommended as reverse proxies). Running locally from a publish folder is not the same thing. I'm not sure how that compares to flask, but for a self hosted windows environment it usually entails:
* Setting up the hosting environment variable on the server
* Setting up a build for the code
* Installing and configuring web deploy or an alternative (build / deploy agents from VSTS, TeamCity or Octopus, or setting up some powershell deploy / DSC scripts, or something similar) which can deploy a given build
* If your deploy doesn't include DSC with an equivalent, then setting up IIS, installing the core hosting modules, creating a site and configuring it for core reverse proxy, setting folder and app pool permissions, and tweaking any site settings as necessary (such as authentication choices)
* Installing certs and setting up hostname bindings
Maybe the nginx based setup is less time consuming, but the above for Windows is fairly minimal and typically takes much longer to setup than provisioning a repository and setting up a new project. Quite a bit of it can be automated with templates or scripts, depending on how stable your network and project configurations are, but automation scripts have their own maintenance costs as well.
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infraninja
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Reddit hug of death!
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ebxee31
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philipwhiuk
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t2_78ppe
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Yes, because /r/lolphp - they skipped 6.
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eazyjtu
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t3_a2ml49
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taybul
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I think that with the code analysis and code coverage tools we have today some people find it to be a challenge (in a good way) to strive for 100% coverage.
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ebxeido
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malkarouri
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I will grant you that. I am still unhappy with the way Guido tried to de-emphasise functional programming. Of course, Guido hasn’t been the only or main voice for a while now, even before he officially left the BDFL role (last July).
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ChipThien
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We do a lot of TDD where I work and I always emphasize that it is crucial to see the test fail for the right reason. Then pass the test. And if you are writing a test that is going to pass anyway but needs to be there for soundness or documentation, comment out/change the relevant production code to watch the test fail. You would be surprised how often a test accidentally passes. Or fails, but for the wrong reason.
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ebxeijn
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t2_78ppe
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Prototypes and learning projects that end up live are the worst example of crappy management and are responsible for lots of terrible design and security problems.
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phillijw
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Well unit tests aren't inherently useful... they have to be GOOD unit tests. Maybe management thought you were writing the bad kind
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i-am-nice
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I know that you are correct.
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chazzeromus
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t2_80i5k
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`svn praise`
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t3_a6nfgh
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nutrecht
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> Most languages have great libraries for all of these. I don't think anyone is arguing for reinventing the wheel. Just that frameworks aren't always needed when it's so easy to import good libraries that do exactly what you need.
You're now assembling your own framework. Again; I'm not saying you can't. I'm saying that a lot of people vastly underestimate the amount of work involved. I've seen this happen myself; people want to try something new, a hip microservice framework for example, and start hand-assembling their own framework and trying to glue it together.
It takes longer than expected (what doesn't) and after a while the PO gets fed up with a lack of progress, so finalising the new stack gets put on the backburner because there's features that need building. In the mean time all the code on the 'new' stack needs to be maintained and kept up to date together with code still on the 'old' stack.
Since rewrites are almost never worth it, you now have 40 microservices of which 10 are in the 'new' stack that need to be kept up to date, need to implement new architectural needs, need to be migrated to a new CI/CD pipeline, etc. This is all just maintenance overhead and for what? Just a new framework?
Again; I'm not reasoning against trying out new stuff. I'm warning against creating a maintenance nightmare because I've seen it happen. Here we recently migrated 3 Node services to Java/Spring for example. It was MUCH more work than anyone expected.
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captain_threadpool
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> web stack is so full of needless complexity
Thank you for making my point for me. You have no clue as to what you're talking about. If you can't understand the implicit complexity of dealing with atomic and secure operations in a multitenant, multithreaded environment, you don't write software for a living, and therefore don't have a dog in this hunt. I'll stop feeding the troll now.
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borghildhedda
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1. For every week of oncall a developer should get 1 day off.
2. If developer had to work nights, he should be compensation with additional days off.
3. No payment would reduce the stress so we should not ask for payment compensation.
4. We as developers have let this on us too easily, to eliminate stress devs must form a group and do not sign contracts which do not provide automatic day off for oncall.
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sky5walk
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t2_a171k
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That's a no. I'm focusing on the title, The Most Important Software Innovations. Do you think applications and widgets would have come so far without C and pointers? Imagine the bloat of Fortran based languages. Dare not to consider embedded COBOL/FORTRAN!!
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fuckin_ziggurats
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t2_cmam5
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I feel like a distributed means of code execution would be a breeding ground for security holes. So no thanks. Also, serverless is not some kind of futuristic replacement of regular long-running stateful applications. It's a solution to a specific problem. The serverless newspeak of today reminds me of the retarded noSQL vs SQL debates. "It's da futur!"
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Some (many? most?) organizations have top-down management. A few important people go into a secret meeting and decide what language and database everyone will be using. When the engineers push back on why either the choice is not a good one or why additional technology is a good idea to solve specific sub-problems, they are broadly ignored, and the mandated technology is rolled out.
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> to see if I might have missed testing some lines of code
You don't test lines of code. You test functionalities. Your code coverage tool will tell you what parts of your code you have to remove as it is dead code if your test cases can't get there.
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Aaaannnndddd that’s what a solid answer looks like folks 😉
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