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null | chrobry | null | Is that the payout for selling the web out? | null | 0 | 1491316037 | False | 0 | dfte721 | t3_63e229 | null | null | t3_63e229 | null | 1493786399 | 14 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | speedisavirus | null | They are intending to raise it. $60k is the current I believe and that barely meets intro level US worker salaries. | null | 0 | 1491316068 | False | 0 | dfte7zi | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfsmh5i | null | 1493786411 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | raistmaj | null | Thanks man, this is life changing. I have one brother there, working in another big company and this was a huge impact(a positive one) in his life. | null | 0 | 1491316079 | False | 0 | dfte8b1 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dftcmdn | null | 1493786416 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | ChipmunkDJE | null | Extremely influential. Congrats. | null | 0 | 1491316092 | False | 0 | dfte8ol | t3_63e229 | null | null | t3_63e229 | null | 1493786421 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Cilph | null | It's not "stopping development". It's "releasing the next version in 2040". That's when I predict Java 10 will release. | null | 1 | 1491316103 | False | 0 | dfte912 | t3_63ddi5 | null | null | t1_dftabl9 | null | 1493786425 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | doom_Oo7 | null | I personnally use CMake but the syntax seems `$(a) .PHONY: %.bit > less # horrible` than make | null | 0 | 1491316106 | False | 0 | dfte94i | t3_63dch7 | null | null | t1_dftdzmq | null | 1493786427 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Senthe | null | Ember was released in 2013 and after years and years of stable development is in great shape and isn't going anywhere : ) | null | 0 | 1491316162 | False | 0 | dfteau3 | t3_5hiu3b | null | null | t1_db1f4zh | null | 1493786450 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Iwan_Zotow | null | > Still no const if
it is here, if constexpr | null | 0 | 1491316171 | False | 0 | dfteb4n | t3_6350ax | null | null | t1_dfrqkgo | null | 1493786454 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | speedisavirus | null | Yes... One of those being extreme competition. The best talent for the hard jobs. That's the entire point of the program. | null | 0 | 1491316215 | False | 0 | dftecg6 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfstdyy | null | 1493786471 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | dirtyuncleron69 | null | This is exactly what I have seen.
We need a one legged programmer, that speaks mandarin, went to Ohio State, and has hands on experience with dirt bikes.
That narrows it down to exactly one person in the world, based on things that are ancillary to the primary job, and bypass tons of people who could actually do the job just fine who don't need a visa. | null | 0 | 1491316215 | False | 0 | dftecgf | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs8p38 | null | 1493786471 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | vfxdev | null | Qualified people look like unicorns because in general they have connections which they simply use to get another job. Its very very rare someone that is good is just blasting out resumes. You have about 5 seconds after they change their linked status to get them before their friends do.
A lot of programmers go home from programming and program more for free, for open source projects and the like. It's kinda a mental obsession to build things with your mind and see them work. | null | 0 | 1491316229 | 1491316431 | 0 | dftecw3 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dftcnj0 | null | 1493786479 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | taoistextremist | null | Are they really terrible? I interviewed with them recently and they sound like they would be, but is most of the hate here pretty much because of their outsourcing? | null | 0 | 1491316245 | False | 0 | dfteddq | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfse3pw | null | 1493786485 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | quantum-mechanic | null | And probably every other ride sharing competition is doing the same.
Consumers win. | null | 0 | 1491316270 | False | 0 | dftee3w | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dft7bng | null | 1493786497 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | TheHillwoodMonkey | null | The orginal Java proposal is [here](http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/8174901), and there's an article discussing it [here](https://www.infoq.com/news/2017/03/java-epsilon-gc). Though perhaps all you really need to see is this tweet from the author:
> Why don't we implement "no" GC in HotSpot, and win every single 5-second latency benchmark. 100 GB heap is enough to survive for 10 secs.
I'm sure it was tongue-in-cheek.
While googling for these things, I also stumbled across this [bizarre document](https://stlab.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Argument_Against_GC) on adobe's website. Towards the bottom it begins to read like a holy text:
> Finally - address the "C++ is bad because it has no GC" argument head-on. C++ doesn't generate garbage and so has no need for GC.
A truly blessed language would not consume cycles, and so would have no need for a CPU. Perhaps [HolyC](http://www.templeos.org/Wb/Doc/HolyC.html) holds the answers they seek. | null | 0 | 1491316290 | False | 0 | dfteepk | t3_63bxdl | null | null | t3_63bxdl | null | 1493786505 | 15 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Yojihito | null | Unless you use interface{} anywhere. | null | 0 | 1491316298 | False | 0 | dfteeye | t3_63c9e1 | null | null | t1_dft7g09 | null | 1493786508 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | speedisavirus | null | You either need to pay more or look harder locally. Most places that contact me offering the same or less are viable options for me... If they would pay to move me there however very few are willing to pay for my house to be moved. If they were I'd be working in Colorado or Florida right now. | null | 0 | 1491316323 | False | 0 | dftefp2 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfsuiym | null | 1493786519 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | seiggy | null | 1 and #2 I would say are a slight possibility. We've tried 4 recruiters, Tek Systems, APEX, Robert Half, and some local person that the company owner knows (but is horrible at their job). We're not exactly Austin or San Francisco, but Greensboro, NC is a fairly populous city. Not exactly middle of nowhere. But we did have that whole HB2 fiasco last year, and I'm sure that's probably hurt tech recruiting a lot here. We've not had any out of state applicants yet, not sure if our recruiters just haven't reached out far enough. We've paid for relocation in the past, so it's something we're open to. Who knows, maybe it really just is Central NC that's starving for talent, and I live in a bit of a bubble. | null | 0 | 1491316368 | False | 0 | dfteh1k | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dftdy2e | null | 1493786536 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | trrSA | null | I suppose you could reduce the distances to discrete values in some spatial problem domains, then maybe it could be a useful structure. Like maybe towns connected by roads and you want a list of towns within n tanks of gas? Seems to be reaching a bit. | null | 0 | 1491316456 | False | 0 | dftejml | t3_636m76 | null | null | t1_dfshggy | null | 1493786571 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | simmmons | null | Does anyone know how this affects scientists? I'm currently a post-doctoral fellow with a J1 and wanted to switch to a H1b so I can potentially apply for a green card down the road. How are these new H1b rules going to affect me? | null | 0 | 1491316500 | False | 0 | dftekwi | t3_637m7q | null | null | t3_637m7q | null | 1493786587 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | [deleted] | null | Ummm I mean that's not really semantics? You literally said manufacturing jobs. That's a pretty specific claim and all I wanted was a source. I'm so curious because I don't think manufacturing jobs will ever come back to the USA. My hypothesis is that US manufacturing output will increase, but only due to automation. | null | 0 | 1491316507 | False | 0 | dftel3o | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dft8liz | null | 1493786591 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | nixonrichard | null | So you have zero apprenticeships. Do you offer any scholarships?
The unemployment rate among CompE grads is 7% and the unemployment rate among CS grads is 5% . . . both pretty standard for all careers.
The reality is that companies pretend there's some extreme shortage of people to hire, but largely it's because they want people who are already very experienced and immediately ready to do work. They don't want to actually put in the money to develop talent in the US when they can abuse a system to just buy it on the cheap from other countries.
Even when it comes to public education, most companies in the US just don't pay anymore.
It used to be that companies paid taxes which paid for public universities, but now even that funding is drying up. Companies just aren't paying anything anymore. They just demand a limitless pool of talent to suit their needs, without having to give anything up.
H1B fuels that selfishness. | null | 0 | 1491316528 | False | 0 | dftelsf | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dft1py4 | null | 1493786600 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Yojihito | null | Null pointer explosions. C is so old that the last 40 years of PL development have shown that you shouldn't use C at all unless unless you have a really good reason to do so. | null | 0 | 1491316528 | False | 0 | dftelsq | t3_63c9e1 | null | null | t1_dft4qa3 | null | 1493786600 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | nixonrichard | null | Or maybe paying engineers as much as doctors and lawyers.
The reality is that lawyers simply wouldn't put up with hiring hundreds of thousands of lawyers from other countries to work in the US like engineers put up with. | null | 0 | 1491316617 | False | 0 | dfteofz | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dftbnzm | null | 1493786635 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | speedisavirus | null | In my experience mid tier US talent is leagues ahead of Indian contract shops. They refuse to say they don't understand or they can't do X in a range of time/money so you end up with delayed projects that are a shit pile. Nothing long lived I've seen going off shore goes well unless you are paying stateside developers to unfuck the train wreck you get. | null | 0 | 1491316633 | False | 0 | dfteowq | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dftbizf | null | 1493786641 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Khenshu | null | Java 6 - 2006
Java 7 - 2011
Jave 8 - 2014
Java 9 - 2017 most likely
I hope i dont need to use linear regression to prove you wrong. With C# updated every 2/3 years, they have to update Java frequently. | null | 0 | 1491316637 | False | 0 | dftep17 | t3_63ddi5 | null | null | t1_dfte912 | null | 1493786643 | 19 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | maushu | null | Hmm. Aren't the companies just going follow the labour? I mean, why pay more if you can pay less in their perspective? | null | 0 | 1491316644 | False | 0 | dftepa9 | t3_638rgm | null | null | t1_dft5uwh | null | 1493786646 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | rout39574 | null | Come to Gainesville, and work at UF! It's far from perfect, but a good match of low COL and a decently active tech community. | null | 0 | 1491316709 | False | 0 | dfter9g | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs7aq8 | null | 1493786673 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | speedisavirus | null | Eastern Europe is really where you should go if you want cheap technology talent. While not always great it has generally worked out far better than India offshore. | null | 0 | 1491316720 | False | 0 | dfterln | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dftdsfh | null | 1493786677 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | mike10010100 | null | > The main reason why the US tech sector is so strong is that it's draining all the talent from the rest of the world. If they stopped bringing all the talented foreign programmers to the US, other countries would become serious competition quickly.
Good. The US shouldn't be the only technically sound country. Other countries should be able to spin up their own tech sector and improve the lives of their own citizens, while generating their own country's GDP.
This idea that the US *should* drain talent from other countries is somewhat imperialistic, no? | null | 0 | 1491316753 | False | 0 | dftesm9 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dft56sd | null | 1493786690 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | TheBuzzSaw | null | SQLite is a fabulous file format. I'm done with JSON and XML (for _most_ things). I'm done creating my own "config file" (usually INI style). I reach for SQLite for all of that now. | null | 0 | 1491316762 | False | 0 | dftesve | t3_63adw4 | null | null | t3_63adw4 | null | 1493786694 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | doom_Oo7 | null | > for (int i = 0; i < other->length(); i++)
*eyes bleeding profusely* | null | 0 | 1491316763 | False | 0 | dftesx8 | t3_63dzrn | null | null | t3_63dzrn | null | 1493786694 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | DarkCisum | null | I think you're mixing things here, but since you're pretty fixated on your opinion, I feel there's no point in trying to start a discussion. So here are three informational points:
* Texture copy [has been adjusted](https://github.com/SFML/SFML/commit/6b71456a55c9cce3eae12ee9cdacbf96fe1c1a71) to use local texture data passing
* It's possible to [access the handle](https://www.sfml-dev.org/documentation/2.4.2/classsf_1_1Texture.php#a14526d89b9008a3d851dc7b5e9532450) now
* The mentioned problem of the article is [clearly documented](https://www.sfml-dev.org/tutorials/2.4/graphics-sprite.php#the-white-square-problem) | null | 0 | 1491316768 | False | 0 | dftet20 | t3_634f0e | null | null | t1_dfrdfry | null | 1493786696 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | f0nd004u | null | This idea is real, real stupid.
It just means that a different section of programmers will be H1-B imported. Right now it's economically viable to hire low-wage and lower-skilled technology workers. The policy would make that less viable.
What's stopping companies from switching it up and only hiring their highly skilled workers from overseas? They can pay someone 100k that would make 30k in their home country instead of paying an American 150k. And why wouldn't they? It would be the sensible move.
If it's a policy meant to target specific practices from specific outsourcing companies, then the policy should actually do that. Make a quota for recruitment companies that hire H1-B to place just as many people who aren't here on H1-B. | null | 0 | 1491316868 | False | 0 | dftew7t | t3_637m7q | null | null | t3_637m7q | null | 1493786739 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | mike10010100 | null | > If I had a DBA to train an intern, sure.
Are classes and outside training not in the budget? | null | 0 | 1491316887 | False | 0 | dftewsl | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dft8w4x | null | 1493786747 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | TheBuzzSaw | null | At least you have the problem of junior devs using it too much. I wish I had that problem. Instead, I have to fight with senior devs refusing to use it at all. | null | 0 | 1491316887 | False | 0 | dftewst | t3_63adw4 | null | null | t1_dft2wb3 | null | 1493786747 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1491316995 | False | 0 | dftf02g | t3_62l8ys | null | null | t1_dfndv80 | null | 1493786790 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | clavalle | null | Not a lot of experience but school and resume look good. Assuming you interview well around $55 - 70K seems about right. Bonus points for good code you can point me to on Github.
I would expect you to get up to 75 - 85 within a few years. A year is pretty fresh (part time PHP work doesn't even register to me unless it was unusual) and the next two or three will tell whether you've got the knack or not so from my point of view there is a lot of risk -- risk leads to a slightly depressed salary, all things considered.
The big caveat here is that **these are not prices for a particular company**. **They are market prices**. They assume you shop yourself around a fair bit. For any particular company, depending on their situation and need the amount the can and are willing to pay you can vary significantly. Some might only be able to pay $30K a year. Some might be desperate for new people and pay $85 (though that would be much rarer than the first case). Point being; you can't go demand market rates from your boss. You can casually mention that you are going to tech meetups and meeting a lot of interesting folks from other companies, though. ;)
Here is some unsolicited career advice: Have public, working code potential hiring managers can look at. Go to meetups. Early in your career work don't be afraid to job hop a bit. Get your feet wet with different technologies. Work on interesting problems whenever possible. Don't get pigeonholed.
The meetup part is critically important. Go to meetups. Meet people working in tech you are interested in. This is the #1 way to find a good job aside from direct referrals from people you already know personally and professionally. Recruiters are generally terrible and looking through job boards is even worse.
Don't go expecting to find a job. Go to learn and to participate in the community. The job part will just happen organically.
Good luck! And if you have any questions, let me know.
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null | k-selectride | null | It's a word that's used a lot in Indian english. If you have an indian boss you will be asked/told to do the needful, and if you ask/tell an indian coworker to do something they will reply saying they will do the needful. It's a great word if you ask me. | null | 0 | 1491317091 | False | 0 | dftf32q | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dftaona | null | 1493786830 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | jack104 | null | I got a BS in CS at a school in Nashville and I started the year they began teaching C Sharp instead of C++. Several of my good friends are IT/Software Engineering recruiters in the area and I'd be more than happy to put you in touch with them; they're straight shooters and I'm sure they could help you. | null | 0 | 1491317110 | False | 0 | dftf3nr | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfssul7 | null | 1493786837 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | seiggy | null | Not to the level required to bring an intern to a Senior level. We're already training one of our developers internally that's expressed interest in expanding into the SQL arena. But training an intern using outside classes would be a crap shoot. I don't know of any classes that are going to raise you from a Jr to Sr level DBA in 6 months or less. And at that point you're gambling on what someone could become, vs what they are. | null | 0 | 1491317125 | False | 0 | dftf44p | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dftewsl | null | 1493786845 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | OneWingedShark | null | > One of my biggest pet peaves: Why is email in plaintext?
Short answer: Because OSI lost. | null | 0 | 1491317153 | False | 0 | dftf507 | t3_63auwj | null | null | t1_dfte0rx | null | 1493786857 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Delmain | null | The entire point is that if you set a flat minimum on salary, that's idiotic.
We have Cost of Living data at a very precise level, what possible reason is there for not basing the salary of an incoming H-1B on it? | null | 0 | 1491317185 | False | 0 | dftf5y0 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dftefp2 | null | 1493786870 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | TheKingOfSiam | null | Agreed. Lots of great Indian colleagues, but it's getting ridiculous outsourcing all of the lower skilled tech positions. Hate Trump, but I'm good with this one. | null | 0 | 1491317212 | False | 0 | dftf6rn | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfstrlw | null | 1493786881 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | didnt_check_source | null | Money-wise, Seattle really is a sweet spot and the Valley is kind of terrible. Seattle rent is almost 4x cheaper than SF rent, and Washington has no state income tax. A 110k position in Seattle is essentially worth a 145k position in the Valley (or more I'd you decide to live in a hip area). | null | 0 | 1491317235 | False | 0 | dftf7h1 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfsvt69 | null | 1493786890 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | rockum | null | Why would you care? You can just use Kotlin and ignore Java. | null | 0 | 1491317243 | False | 0 | dftf7po | t3_63ddi5 | null | null | t1_dft85ht | null | 1493786893 | 23 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Dickferret | null | me%curl -s https://medium.com/message/everything-is-broken-81e5f33a24e1 | htmlfmt | wc
505 4121 24369
Yes, this is definitely something that should require any time at all to display. | null | 0 | 1491317247 | False | 0 | dftf7uj | t3_63auwj | null | null | t1_dft9yfv | null | 1493786896 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | TheBuzzSaw | null | > ... there are catastrophic 0days that hand the keys to the house to whomever strolls by.
... to _whoever_ strolls by. | null | 0 | 1491317267 | False | 0 | dftf8i0 | t3_63auwj | null | null | t3_63auwj | null | 1493786904 | -2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | speedisavirus | null | Nods and shakes mean something very different in India than in the US | null | 0 | 1491317285 | False | 0 | dftf92u | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfssn7a | null | 1493786912 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | CheapBastid | null | > Low power consumption.
That's like saying that the CPU only uses x without considering the amount of power that the system that supports the CPU consumes. While Humans may be energy efficient from one standpoint, they aren't natively upgrade-able. One is also not guaranteed to have the right human suited to the complex work of 'assisting' machines, so there are expensive redundant manufacturing costs (pregnancy, child rearing, etc.) to get the 'right' human for the job.
> Who knows if we will ever have a general AI that consumes so little power.
[Koomey’s law](https://www.technologyreview.com/s/427444/the-computing-trend-that-will-change-everything/) sort of [answers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Performance_per_watt) your question. | null | 0 | 1491317297 | 1491320511 | 0 | dftf9gn | t3_62weyo | null | null | t1_dftc3uc | null | 1493786917 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | acdha | null | It's not the country but rather the communications barriers: writing software is essentially codifying your business practice and if you don't have a very clear understanding of what you need and how you'll iterate, not to mention dealing with changes or disagreements, adding multiple time zones and less familiarity will only amplify the problem.
The other thing I've seen is pure greed: there are many excellent Indian developers but they generally know their market value and some companies just aren't satisfied saving just the cost of living difference and hire the absolute lowest bidder without assessing whether they're capable of delivering. When it turns out that there was a good reason why the competent developers cost more, the message will be “incompetent foreigners!” rather than “I failed to do my due diligence overseeing this contract”. | null | 0 | 1491317319 | False | 0 | dftfa4q | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dftdsfh | null | 1493786925 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Sydonai | null | I'm not aware of any apprenticeship programs, no. The only one I've ever heard of is Thoughtbot's, in fact. I agree with your points, and I do look at this policy change with interest and hope that it forges a new interest in education. | null | 0 | 1491317320 | False | 0 | dftfa6q | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dftelsf | null | 1493786926 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | MarshallBanana | null | Since when has word count, of all things, significantly affected performance of displaying text? | null | 1 | 1491317398 | False | 0 | dftfcji | t3_63auwj | null | null | t1_dftf7uj | null | 1493786958 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | can_i_have | null | Because they needed some presence in US that would interface with business while your code monkeys do the real work back in India. It gives the convenience to businesses that they won't have to do calls in night or early morning.
Moreover, most of these body shop jobs were to keep employees happy who were sent on rotation. Attrition rate is high in India. Employers do favors such as these to retain the average and higher performing talent.
Now that there will be an industry wide restriction, no one would expect the convenience of having any number of programmers local while 80% of the work is done by cheap talent offshore. So yeah just the location of employment would change. | null | 0 | 1491317426 | 1491322910 | 0 | dftfdfe | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dftcdqg | null | 1493786971 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | FarkCookies | null | Your average H1B visa holder is:
1. Educated
2. Hard-working
3. Law-abiding
4. Not draining welfare
5. Probably relatively healthy (it is hard to move if you are sick)
And now you say that influx of such people is bad for your country? This is the tide that lifts all boats, those people are contributing to the society more than lots of the local workers. You are extremely shortsighted thinking that this is something bad.
> increases the power of managers and owners over labor
You know what is the strongest driver of the increase of this power? The US laws and the anti-labor politicians that Americans keep electing. But please, keep blaming skilled immigrants. | null | 0 | 1491317475 | False | 0 | dftfezl | t3_638rgm | null | null | t1_dfswa2i | null | 1493786992 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | f0nd004u | null | > Your company really shouldn't be okay with being dependent on foreign workers, and should use them as a temporary solution, not as long-term infrastructure.
If I work at an international company, are they really foreign workers?
Some US companies are interested in results and don't care where you're from. And don't see "hiring American" as a goal within itself at all. The only business people that do have been duped by the Republican party, because they're idiots. Or think that nationalism is more important than money.
I've hired for mid-tier technical positions in enterprise IT and software. There is a serious lack of candidates. All the people in my town that have my skillset literally know each other. We've hired several people from out of state this year into my department because there's no one looking for it locally who is qualified. H1-B would actually be a decent option if someone from our Israel office wanted to come over. | null | 0 | 1491317492 | 1491317720 | 0 | dftffit | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dft0ll6 | null | 1493786999 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | speedisavirus | null | Please Google. They even shit pay their US employees. Imagine what they do to foreign workers. Then they bring them here for "work" while maintaining that they technically work from another country this bypassing some laws. | null | 0 | 1491317503 | False | 0 | dftffu9 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfsy05a | null | 1493787003 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | amyyyyyyyyyy | null | So I guess browsing on an iPhone goes full circle | null | 0 | 1491317657 | False | 0 | dftfkrf | t3_63e1ws | null | null | t1_dftb4qo | null | 1493787069 | 65 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | ThisIs_MyName | null | > reusable abstractions (group theory, order theory, ring theory, set theory, category theory)
You've got to be kidding me. I was with you until this. | null | 0 | 1491317723 | False | 0 | dftfmvp | t3_63auwj | null | null | t1_dfszr5d | null | 1493787097 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | stewsters | null | I just hope they don't get the idea to buy JetBrains. I don't think I could handle that. | null | 0 | 1491317750 | False | 0 | dftfnr8 | t3_63ddi5 | null | null | t1_dft8uhj | null | 1493787109 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | gw2fu | null | I would advise against this unless /u/Lat1nGuy never cares about owning property reasonably close to the city. Seattle real estate is in dismally short supply and increasing in demand, while something near SF will probably get you 1200 square feet for a pretty $1.5 million. There are other tech markets like Austin, TX that have decent tech salaries without being prohibitively expensive. Just keep in mind that salary is directly tied to cost of living, and that includes rent. SF and Seattle are more pleasant places to live (for most people, at least) and cost of living directly reflects that. So it's a bit of a balancing act. Salary should never be the only determining factor in choosing where to work in tech. | null | 0 | 1491317753 | False | 0 | dftfnur | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfsvt69 | null | 1493787110 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | speedisavirus | null | Company down the street from where I lived a few years back threw company leadership in prison over this. Unfortunately for every one that gets busted there are still others. | null | 0 | 1491317785 | False | 0 | dftfoup | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dft0jvy | null | 1493787123 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | warsage | null | Interesting. Seems like I'm doing OK then. I got hired one year ago making $70k and got a decent raise last month. Thanks! All this talk from people was making me worried that I'm being underpaid.
>Some might only be able to pay $30K a year.
Could such a company actually find devs willing to work for $30k/year? | null | 0 | 1491317821 | False | 0 | dftfq20 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dftf24h | null | 1493787140 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | kace91 | null | You mixed the link and text (just FYI). Thanks for the link! | null | 0 | 1491317832 | False | 0 | dftfqez | t3_636m76 | null | null | t1_dfsecej | null | 1493787144 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | speedisavirus | null | So do you realize how much a medallion can cost? If you can even get one because of limited numbers? | null | 0 | 1491317880 | 1491321897 | 0 | dftfrwi | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfsp43w | null | 1493787164 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Fusion89k | null | Well when you're the best /s | null | 0 | 1491317883 | False | 0 | dftfs0y | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dftesm9 | null | 1493787165 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | mgkimsal | null | > It's not the country but rather the communications barriers
While that's true, my experiences with some overseas folks has been that their culture influences their communication. The only Indian developers I've know who've ever actually admitted that they don't understand something early on have been those who've lived in US/UK/Canada for a while.
When in a meeting, someone explains something, then says "do you understand?", if you don't understand, the correct answer is "no, I do not understand. can we review that again?" I've never had Indian devs who were working overseas do that up front - they end up wasting days/weeks not acknowledging that they didn't understand something during/after a meeting, until way later. I'd generally chalked that up to regional cultural norms about not wanting to publicly acknowledge not understanding something (but.. I could be wrong - it's just a common denominating experience I've seen)
Clear understanding and communication is at the heart of successful projects (software and otherwise), and there seem to be some cultural issues in some geographic areas that have more trouble with communication than others. (again, just my own experiences over the last 20 years in software dev) | null | 0 | 1491317953 | False | 0 | dftfu7z | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dftfa4q | null | 1493787195 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | davorzdralo | null | I used Google to get that number. Sites like this:
https://www.topuniversities.com/student-info/student-finance/how-much-does-it-cost-study-us
List everything from 10k to 50k per year as cost of college. | null | 0 | 1491317987 | False | 0 | dftfvco | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dft6ku8 | null | 1493787210 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | NORTHAMERICAN_SCUM | null | The bottom line is, the higher you set the bar for "Qualified", the fewer candidates you're going to have, and the more you're going to pay to meet your expectations.
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null | evildonald | null | I'm sure they will be fine to work for, like any other mega-faceless outsourcing company (I've worked for a few). But I just don't like 'em.
Always getting caught doing illegal things. | null | 0 | 1491317997 | False | 0 | dftfvo2 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfteddq | null | 1493787215 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | glacialthinker | null | Or never really went anywhere... | null | 0 | 1491318005 | False | 0 | dftfvwg | t3_63e1ws | null | null | t1_dftfkrf | null | 1493787218 | 47 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | f0nd004u | null | Since when is a data center engineer making $70k not a specialized position?
"Hur duur you're a pleb unless you make 6 figs, obviously I could train anyone to your job."
If that's true, why did I hire from the midwest (and pay relo) for the last 3 jobs I needed to fill when I live in a huge tech boom city on the west coast?
I could probably hire someone with an H1-B and data center experience and do just fine with them. | null | 0 | 1491318101 | False | 0 | dftfz0l | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfsxpz2 | null | 1493787259 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | speedisavirus | null | I am a veteran and had no issues. Did you go to university of Phoenix? Especially if you had a clearance you should have had no problem. That or you live somewhere shitty and refuse to move. | null | 0 | 1491318148 | False | 0 | dftg0gc | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfssul7 | null | 1493787278 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | zenaudio | null | I just spent a few spare cycles replacing CMake with make in a reasonably sized project. My experiences:
- it's nice that there's no magic
- the text substitution functions aren't that great. e.g. pattern substitution occurs only for first match, the rest are left as-is
- tripartite builds are not handled in a very nice way; using VPATH requires hacks to run the Makefile from the new location. surprising because this seems like an obvious use-case
- make is language-agnostic which means you must explicitly state the dependencies in your program. To wit: you must track every include file in every cpp file yourself. You can generate this, but it's an extra step
All in all, I really feel like there's a space for something better than make, but without all the crap you get in CMake. Ideally written in C++ ;) | null | 0 | 1491318182 | False | 0 | dftg1hu | t3_63dch7 | null | null | t3_63dch7 | null | 1493787291 | 13 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | dd_de_b | null | That would be great - if engineers were paid as much as doctors and lawyers. But it's still the best-paid degree you can get in college. [source](http://www.thinkadvisor.com/2016/05/09/30-best-paying-college-majors-2016?slreturn=1491317692&page_all=1).
Back to the point I was trying to make, can we agree that an apprenticeship program would fall short in properly training engineers? Compared to a 4 year college. | null | 0 | 1491318211 | False | 0 | dftg2f1 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfteofz | null | 1493787304 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
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null | f0nd004u | null | There are 2 companies who do this a lot. Everyone gets their panties in a wad over it. Most H1-B folks are brought in because America doesn't have many skilled tech workers. Anyone who's tried to hire for tech positions in the US will tell you the same.
Hell, try anyone who's *gotten* a job in tech in the past couple of years. My current employer offered me more money than I was asking for simply to get me hooked; that's how excited they were to get someone competent that they didn't have to relo. | null | 0 | 1491318258 | False | 0 | dftg3wg | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dft0pm2 | null | 1493787324 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
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null | ask4ebuka | null | Happy to see he is being acknowledged for his efforts. | null | 0 | 1491318304 | False | 0 | dftg5c8 | t3_63e1ws | null | null | t3_63e1ws | null | 1493787343 | 24 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | ThisIs_MyName | null | ["30 years worth of backward compatibility"](https://xkcd.com/1168/) | null | 0 | 1491318342 | False | 0 | dftg6k3 | t3_63adw4 | null | null | t1_dft47wj | null | 1493787360 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | motioncuty | null | It's a different kind of training. When I got my engineering degree, 2 years were spent learning things I have not made use of regularly, the important things that I use every day, I have learned from my peers, case studies, and books/articles by other programmers.
I trust anyone who has done enough demo projects to gain the practical experience needed. I've know too many people with engineering/science degrees who have never completed a project on their own, and cannot take responsibility to see a project to it's end, to trust the degree alone. The bootcamps focus more on the practical skills of engineering, problem solving, and project management, while degreed programs are more on the theoretical side. If I am looking at 2 candidates, right out of their respective programs, I will look at their personal projects/projects they have done for a client, as the ultimate judge of their skill level. Still, a degree says something about their education level, and their ability to stick with a long term, hard challenge.
Personally, I think bootcamp is a better return on investment, allowing you to make money at a young age, max your return for minimal educational investment, get some experience, and then sets you up to really take advantage of getting a CS or CompE degree in a year or two.
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null | speedisavirus | null | Those price ranges are fresh graduate wages. There is no reason to import experienced labor at that price point besides screwing over domestic workers. You can't just out source jobs and many companies get bit when they do because the work tends to be shit. If they were good enough they are probably in the US getting under paid | null | 0 | 1491318401 | False | 0 | dftg8g7 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfsyej9 | null | 1493787385 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | poolontheroof | null | You frame it as being too cheap and not wanting to invest the money in training, but that often isn't an option.
If you're a 20 person startup, and google/fb/etc are hiring the best engineers for more than you can afford, H1-Bs can be an incredible opportunity to hire great people and help your company succeed, which then might go on to hire 1000 engineers, many of whom are Americans. If you have to start from scratch training mediocre Americans instead, it's that much harder to get to market and grow your product and you might never get there.
You're assuming that this "it's more expensive" argument is being made only by rich, disgustingly profitable companies trying to squeeze more money out of everyone else. That's often not the case, particularly in Silicon Valley. Margins are often incredibly thin (or negative and subsidized by VC funding).
On top of that, training engineers is a risk because they may never get good enough, so that makes it even more expensive.
There are lots of places where people can go to learn coding, and then prove they're good and get a job afterwards. Most Americans are not doing this. I don't see why that is a reason not to let companies hire the best people they can if some of the best people are foreigners. The realistic alternative is often just hiring fewer people and growing slower, and faster growth is good for everyone. | null | 0 | 1491318404 | False | 0 | dftg8kd | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dftelsf | null | 1493787387 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | MorrisonLevi | null | So... this article is arguing that CPU time doesn't really matter for a lot of domains and they are right. It's just that... it's been that way for a long time. As far as hardware is concerned memory, persistent storage and network have been the bottlenecks for... well probably decades now. Is there some particular event that has prompted this article? | null | 0 | 1491318406 | False | 0 | dftg8ms | t3_63eask | null | null | t3_63eask | null | 1493787388 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
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null | K3wp | null | We did (I work in higher ed). Nobody teaches the history of IT.
It's a hobby of mine and I'm a former Bell Labs guy, so that's where I got it from. | null | 0 | 1491318434 | False | 0 | dftg9kl | t3_62cx5d | null | null | t1_dfp82uk | null | 1493787419 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | salgat | null | These are only including sites that report that info in some way (such as in the headers or if a site uses aspx extension). | null | 0 | 1491318453 | False | 0 | dftga5g | t3_63a2p9 | null | null | t1_dft3xeu | null | 1493787462 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | mrexodia | null | What about Array.Sort? | null | 0 | 1491318478 | False | 0 | dftgayo | t3_63dwlp | null | null | t3_63dwlp | null | 1493787474 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | ThisIs_MyName | null | Right, use a format with a manifest. Like zip :P | null | 0 | 1491318479 | False | 0 | dftgazz | t3_63adw4 | null | null | t1_dft47h2 | null | 1493787474 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | LuckyHedgehog | null | its not that a 6 figure salary "won't cut it" to make a decent living, it's that you won't be making more compared to other cities when you adjust for cost of living.
For example, in the Minneapolis area I can find a decent apartment for about 1200/month. In Seattle that price is 3000/month. I would need to make 20k more per year just to break even on living expenses. So if you are comparing a job from minneapolis that pays 80k to a job in seattle that pays 100k, it doesn't make sense to pick seattle purely for the salary | null | 0 | 1491318488 | False | 0 | dftgbau | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dftd2i9 | null | 1493787478 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | sadbasturd99 | null | ok, never heard that expression. learned something new. | null | 0 | 1491318515 | False | 0 | dftgc6i | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dftf32q | null | 1493787491 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | d_kr | null | Wow, I did not expect an in depth sort implementation comparision. Thankfully it is not a "101 some sort implementation in c#". | null | 0 | 1491318527 | False | 0 | dftgcmn | t3_63dwlp | null | null | t3_63dwlp | null | 1493787496 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
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null | heisgone | null | Meh. Those awards are all about protocol. | null | 0 | 1491318559 | False | 0 | dftgdnu | t3_63e1ws | null | null | t3_63e1ws | null | 1493787510 | 57 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | [deleted] | null | so sell out everyone with DRM, win turning award? | null | 0 | 1491318583 | False | 0 | dftgehk | t3_63e229 | null | null | t3_63e229 | null | 1493787520 | 26 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
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null | Cilph | null | Id quit my job and leave the industry. | null | 0 | 1491318703 | False | 0 | dftgid4 | t3_63ddi5 | null | null | t1_dftfnr8 | null | 1493787590 | 12 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | clavalle | null | Not easily, but I've seen it happen. Early stage companies, for example. | null | 0 | 1491318706 | False | 0 | dftgih5 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dftfq20 | null | 1493787591 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | mike10010100 | null | Lawl. We've never been the best at anything.
Except cheeseburgers. We're the goddamn best at cheeseburgers. | null | 0 | 1491318747 | False | 0 | dftgjt0 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dftfs0y | null | 1493787609 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | kevinlamonte | null | Once he started talking about Microsoft and Office, I lost all respect for the rest of the points.
They took away a user interface that had worked well for over 15 years and two generations of users had grown skilled at; they deliberately allowed code in what were previously data-only files, enabling the proliferation of whole new classes of malware; they failed to document their file structures well enough even for their own descendant projects to read reliably, just to prevent end users from accessing _their own data_ using other products.
Are these kinds of betrayals of the end user a desired result from 35 years in the industry?
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null | Isvara | null | Uh, no... it's a salaried position. There is no unpaid time. | null | 0 | 1491318768 | False | 0 | dftgki2 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dft1rio | null | 1493787618 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
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