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False | Vakz | t2_73dji | Welcome to C#, where you'll alternate between `.Length`, `.Count` and `.Count()` depending on the container. | null | 0 | 1546249695 | False | 0 | ecxqgo6 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwo6y4 | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxqgo6/ | 1548320068 | 8 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | diggr-roguelike2 | t2_13327ggz | > It's so wildly different from languages like C, C++, Java, Python, Go, JS, etc... that there's almost no way to proceed without lessons.
C++ is C with functional features. Templates are a purely functional, lazy sublanguage. The C++ stdlib is a bunch of less radical functional stuff, closer to OCaml or something.
So no, going from C++ to Haskell is not such a big deal. Haskell, however, has a bunch of idiosyncratic stuff that goes against the grain of common sense and sound engineering practices (like laziness by default), this will make the blood of a serious C++ programmer boil.
| null | 0 | 1546249716 | False | 0 | ecxqh3m | t3_aavxpp | null | null | t1_ecvitw4 | /r/programming/comments/aavxpp/advent_of_haskell_thoughts_and_lessons_learned/ecxqh3m/ | 1548320073 | -5 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | searchingfortao | t2_4wnae | > I started at Microsoft when we were still asking questions about why manhole covers were round, how many ping pong balls would fill a 747, and how to reverse a linked list. In 20 years here, I’ve yet to have to write the code to reverse a linked list (copy-paste anyone?) or fill a 747 with any kind of ball.
A-fucking-men. If only every other company could learn this lesson. | null | 0 | 1546249745 | False | 0 | ecxqhny | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecvx55i | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxqhny/ | 1548320081 | 84 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Vakz | t2_73dji | > a more correct version
I wish someone would go through the entire API and just count how many deprecated functions and classes there are which now have a "more correct version". Bonus points for stuff that used to be the corrected version, that now have a more correct version. | null | 0 | 1546249785 | False | 0 | ecxqijh | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwh9jb | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxqijh/ | 1548320091 | 7 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Terr_ | t2_3wkmu | I think you misunderstood *why* you were being asked the question and what you were being evaluated on.
The point of FizzBuzz-type questions is to help quickly and cheaply screen out common kinds of unqualified bullshitters, by asking them to write something simple on the spot... Hopefully with a dynamic "walk me through it" discussion and follow-up "now make it do this" design changes.
When you offer resistance to that process and say "I don't want to, here's something pre-written instead", you **are not distinguishing yourself** from the copy-paste bullshitters.
Rather than impressing them with your world-weary preparedness, you've bumped up the chance that they'll move on to someone else they can actually get a feel for. | null | 0 | 1546250084 | 1546255597 | 0 | ecxqovm | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwwurr | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxqovm/ | 1548320169 | 50 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | chewyfruitloop | t2_4ugok | From the sample size of ..not enough to be representative.. I’ve found that older people (over 35) are going into new jobs because they have to, aka they have been made redundant somewhere else, so they tend to take large pay reductions... one of our guys has told me he took a pay cut of more than one of the junior guys was taking home...
I was in the same position when I came to my current job but my pay cut was about 5%, but that’s now sorted itself out | null | 0 | 1546250528 | False | 0 | ecxqxt0 | t3_aandti | null | null | t1_ecukq4j | /r/programming/comments/aandti/older_workers_pushed_out_of_work_or_forced_into/ecxqxt0/ | 1548320280 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Conradfr | t2_4n8mw | There are all the same and yet completely different.
That's why I sometimes Google for the loop syntax or basic functions that I've used for twenty years.
You take the first StackOverflow link, skip the question and just quickly scan the first answer and go on with your task. | null | 0 | 1546250602 | False | 0 | ecxqz7i | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecw5xb3 | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxqz7i/ | 1548320298 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | EnvironmentalClock8 | t2_2w341b2j | Well, can't really keep posting from the old ones, they're deleted. | null | 0 | 1546250743 | False | 0 | ecxr1sv | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecwlisf | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecxr1sv/ | 1548320330 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | defnotthrown | t2_f46p4 | He's not talking about out-sourcing. He's talking about sourcing your workforce from the outside, you know, work-visas. I'm pretty sure I've heard of plenty of US-Citizens working in Canada, so I don't buy the "we don't do that". | null | 0 | 1546250894 | False | 0 | ecxr4jz | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecx4qv4 | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxr4jz/ | 1548320364 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | veske | t2_dceyc | That is a bit harder to achieve 😃 | null | 0 | 1546250909 | False | 0 | ecxr4u9 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecxlxm1 | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxr4u9/ | 1548320367 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | MineralPlunder | t2_amu2j | > Haskell, however, has a bunch of idiosyncratic stuff that goes against the grain of common sense and sound engineering practices
It's "against the grain of common sense" only when assuming that imperative programming ala C++ is The Primary Way(well, it kinda is so due to how processors were programmed historically...).
Laziness and purely functional programming calls for a different way of thinking. In Haskell, you could for example lazily declare a list of all numbers that are prime. Then you get 5th or 27th prime, and they are computed as needed.^[1] In C++, you choose some way of doing it:
1. prepare some primes
2. calculate a desired prime number as needed
3. implement laziness
Is it good or bad? I don't know, maybe you know. Sometimes it's easier to think functionally, sometimes it's easier to think imperative^[2]. In most cases from my experience, it's easier to debug code that's as functional as possible. But on the other hand, I still have no idea how I/O monad is supposed to work, maybe I'm stuck
^[1] I don't know Haskell besides the basics, so I could only drop that example
^[2] You can instantly switch from "imperative" to "functional" mindset by treating global state as a hidden, implicit argument/returnvalue, woohoo! | null | 0 | 1546251057 | False | 0 | ecxr7kr | t3_aavxpp | null | null | t1_ecxqh3m | /r/programming/comments/aavxpp/advent_of_haskell_thoughts_and_lessons_learned/ecxr7kr/ | 1548320430 | 7 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | lee1026 | t2_42hqu | We didn't like the idea that our jobs are "easier" and didn't require the full training of a software engineer. | null | 0 | 1546251167 | False | 0 | ecxr9l6 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecxc1yx | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxr9l6/ | 1548320455 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | PunchTornado | t2_i0wtl | agree 100%. Microsoft is all about algorithms. really? maybe they could ship a decent browser if they didn't think that. there are tons of programming jobs where algorithms and big o doesn't matter at all. | null | 0 | 1546251331 | False | 0 | ecxrcov | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecxo2dp | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxrcov/ | 1548320493 | 5 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Ameisen | t2_5qad2 | How performant are concepts expected to be? | null | 0 | 1546251337 | False | 0 | ecxrcsk | t3_aac4hg | null | null | t1_ecxk82t | /r/programming/comments/aac4hg/modern_c_lamentations/ecxrcsk/ | 1548320494 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | vijayanand123 | t2_2qdameu0 | We offer students with placement guidance by conducting placement drives, scheduling interview with MNC’s, conducting Job Fairs which will make our people to find the best place for them in the software industry | null | 0 | 1546251368 | False | 0 | ecxrdd3 | t3_ab5x9d | null | null | t3_ab5x9d | /r/programming/comments/ab5x9d/aws_training_institute_in_chennai/ecxrdd3/ | 1548320501 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | tulipoika | t2_zczahne | It’s a buzzword, sure, but very few are interested in it, especially because they know miracles don’t exist. | null | 0 | 1546251590 | False | 0 | ecxrhec | t3_ab5ogp | null | null | t1_ecxpx4e | /r/programming/comments/ab5ogp/blockchain_online_training_offers_features_fee/ecxrhec/ | 1548320553 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | imekon | t2_59bjj | > there are tons of programming jobs where algorithms and big o doesn't matter at all.
I know, I keep finding them. They're usually the more interesting or varied roles. | null | 0 | 1546251686 | False | 0 | ecxrj6a | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecxrcov | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxrj6a/ | 1548320575 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | m50d | t2_6q02y | > And if you think of it as a way to sequence operations, you're thinking it wrong.
Disagree. `IO` doesn't have any denotational semantics, the only way to think about composition of `IO` actions is as sequencing operations. And while `do` notation is much more general than its application to `IO`, it's fine to think about the special case that you're using, just like it's fine to think of e.g. `+` as adding integers rather than adding monoids in general. | null | 0 | 1546251835 | False | 0 | ecxrlz1 | t3_aavxpp | null | null | t1_ecxe7ek | /r/programming/comments/aavxpp/advent_of_haskell_thoughts_and_lessons_learned/ecxrlz1/ | 1548320609 | 6 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | the_gnarts | t2_9ya05 | Very informative post, almost more than one can hope for on the last
day of the year.
> I was entertained to noice that Clang actually defines __GNUC__. Shall also GCC define __clang__?
Compilers appear to undergo convergent evolution with browsers who at
some point started to use the same User-Agent header after webdevs abused
it too much. | null | 0 | 1546251961 | False | 0 | ecxro8p | t3_ab3s8n | null | null | t3_ab3s8n | /r/programming/comments/ab3s8n/even_more_fun_with_building_and_benchmarking/ecxro8p/ | 1548320638 | 28 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | m50d | t2_6q02y | > Templates are a purely functional, lazy sublanguage.
A compile-time only language, not really a sublanguage. An experienced C++ *template metaprogrammer* may have little difficulty going to Haskell, but that won't be the experience of a regular C++ programmer.
> The C++ stdlib is a bunch of less radical functional stuff, closer to OCaml or something.
It's a long way from functional. It doesn't even have sum types (no, not even if you're lucky enough to be using a version that has `std::variant`) | null | 0 | 1546251975 | False | 0 | ecxrohn | t3_aavxpp | null | null | t1_ecxqh3m | /r/programming/comments/aavxpp/advent_of_haskell_thoughts_and_lessons_learned/ecxrohn/ | 1548320640 | 5 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | quadmaniac | t2_62g7j | Went expecting some blog, came away disappointed with 2 links to source code :/ | null | 0 | 1546252105 | False | 0 | ecxrqvh | t3_ab4t3k | null | null | t3_ab4t3k | /r/programming/comments/ab4t3k/behind_the_scenes_of_regular_expression_regex/ecxrqvh/ | 1548320671 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | [deleted] | None | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1546252242 | 1548002192 | 0 | ecxrtdr | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecx7tyb | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxrtdr/ | 1548320701 | 8 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | LandingMonkey | t2_mo5szq1 | be aware : written in 2000. | null | 0 | 1546252423 | False | 0 | ecxrwny | t3_ab601z | null | null | t3_ab601z | /r/programming/comments/ab601z/what_if_linus_torvalds_gets_hit_by_a_bus/ecxrwny/ | 1548320742 | -29 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | BarneyStinson | t2_3eyn0 | No you don't. `putStrLn "foo" >> putStrLn "bar"`. | null | 0 | 1546252724 | False | 0 | ecxs29x | t3_aavxpp | null | null | t1_ecxe7ek | /r/programming/comments/aavxpp/advent_of_haskell_thoughts_and_lessons_learned/ecxs29x/ | 1548320812 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | ggtsu_00 | t2_72fwy | See that part where they throw off your "good hire" heuristic is where they pretend they haven't seen this problem before and play you along for the ride appearing to deriving the correct solution in front of you from scratch appearing to be a genius when they are just reciting trivia already given to them before. Not only do you end up hiring a deceitful/dishonest person, but also someone who may be completely incapable of figuring out solutions to problems but only capable of memorizing and reciting previous information they seen before.
Basically, any clever programming 'trick' someone can remember or perhaps from a lookup on the internet or privy to a previous interview is subject to being a poor heuristic one's capability. And there is a whole huge class of these clever programming tricks that end up as common interview questions such as detecting loops in a linked list using the rabbit/hare double pointer trick, detecting if an integer is a power of two using the bitwise + logical operators trick, etc.
| null | 0 | 1546253205 | False | 0 | ecxsb1o | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecxak9t | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxsb1o/ | 1548320920 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | queenkid1 | t2_6py35 | a neural net "genetic algorithm" you only really run for 2 generations... at that point, there's barely anything genetic about it. | null | 0 | 1546253235 | False | 0 | ecxsbm0 | t3_ab42kn | null | null | t3_ab42kn | /r/programming/comments/ab42kn/neural_network_genetic_algorithm_ai_master_of/ecxsbm0/ | 1548320927 | 24 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | cafk | t2_43wlw | I have a feeling that you didn't read the methodology nor recommendations.
The assumptions and suggestions made there are still valid :) | null | 0 | 1546253249 | False | 0 | ecxsbvf | t3_ab601z | null | null | t1_ecxrwny | /r/programming/comments/ab601z/what_if_linus_torvalds_gets_hit_by_a_bus/ecxsbvf/ | 1548320930 | 35 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | davorzdralo | t2_62ihs | > My personal go-to question is to have them describe to me what happens in a typical HTTP request
That's a horrible question for a developer (unless you are developing software for routers or something like that). First, you could write an entire book about this, and second, it doesn't really matter one bit for 99% of development jobs, as it's at least one layer of abstraction below typical development. You may as well ask about cache locality or something else that is low level, but actually useful to understand. | null | 0 | 1546253262 | False | 0 | ecxsc52 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecweeof | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxsc52/ | 1548320933 | 0 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | proverbialbunny | t2_wu2e3 | >Epiphany 2: Not everyone does their best work in fast-paced, high-pressure situations
I'm glad someone realized it. I've worked as a Software Engineer, Data Engineer, and Data Scientist, and as an analyst for much of the work I have done, all of it requires research. Some jobs I've done more time is spent researching the subject matter than is writing code. Yet I've never had an interview reflect this. All of my best thinking comes from hindsight.
I've long suspected one day we will get some sort of multi part interview, where we're asked a question, dive into it a bit, and then the next day or week come back after some rumination and hammer out the second half. Why this is not done is somewhat understandable. People can cheat and google a problem, but the kinds of problems that you need to google to get help on are real world problems, and the kinds people should be interviewed on.
>Writing an idea down and iterating
Yah! Likewise, this hits on another spot. In the work place issues are in tickets or written into tickets. In interviews they are verbal. Why not give people interview questions in an issue tracker or in some sort of written form, or ask them to turn the question into a ticket? | null | 0 | 1546253291 | False | 0 | ecxscob | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecvx55i | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxscob/ | 1548320940 | 48 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | spootydooty | t2_p8917vj | You are right, that‘s way more sensible than what I suggested. Thanks! | null | 0 | 1546253412 | False | 0 | ecxsewr | t3_aavq8r | null | null | t1_ecx53lq | /r/programming/comments/aavq8r/reversing_an_nbit_number_in_olog_n_time/ecxsewr/ | 1548320967 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | vattenpuss | t2_brzia | Is this not also what Google Analytics does?
As soon as you use an app the developers decided to use GA for your phone is telling Google what you are doing. | null | 0 | 1546253546 | False | 0 | ecxshgd | t3_ab5fug | null | null | t3_ab5fug | /r/programming/comments/ab5fug/how_facebook_tracks_you_on_android_even_if_you/ecxshgd/ | 1548321025 | 65 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | MotorAdhesive4 | t2_232uur2d | Is the answer "I don't know the details right now, but I can know them by the next time you ask" or something along those lines appropriate? | null | 0 | 1546253805 | False | 0 | ecxsme2 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwxwwr | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxsme2/ | 1548321086 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | moeris | t2_7dr2j | > I asked them during the interview how many times they had to store a binary tree in an array. They for confused and didn't like it.
The point isn't to demonstrate that you have arcane knowledge, but to show that you're capable of breaking a problem down and solving it. By asking how often they actually have had to do this task, you're effectively demonstrating that you either don't understand how interviews work, or that you are contrarian and might be difficult to work with. I'd be willing to bet they didn't go with you for reasons of culture fit, rather than technical knowledge. (I could be wrong of course, but that's how I would feel about it.)
Also, I have actually used array-based binary trees at work. (Well, heaps actually, but it's a type of binary tree.)
A big part of the problem is that issues you actually have to address at work don't fit well in the time constraints for an interview, and they are often ambiguous. That makes it really difficult to assess candidates. At my current business, we try to address this by having a couple of different parts to the process: an interview problem, a take-home problem, and code review of some production code during the interview. That's still not a great proxy, but that's what makes interviewing difficult. | null | 0 | 1546253817 | False | 0 | ecxsmmf | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwizrz | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxsmmf/ | 1548321089 | 22 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | i-eat-kittens | t2_z290n | So you went all defensive and just brushed their problem off as irrelevant when you couldn't answer some basic algo question..? | null | 0 | 1546254109 | False | 0 | ecxss04 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwizrz | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxss04/ | 1548321156 | 7 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | isaystuffonreddit | t2_wmbh4 | What am I looking at here? Is this good? Looks about 10 years out of date to me. | null | 0 | 1546254127 | False | 0 | ecxsscq | t3_ab22lz | null | null | t3_ab22lz | /r/programming/comments/ab22lz/c_rendering_engine_with_directx_and_opengl/ecxsscq/ | 1548321160 | 0 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Tiervexx | t2_adozh | I agree that "how many ping pong balls to fill a 747?" Is a stupid question. "How would you reverse a linked list?" Isn't. I never asked that question, but it's not at all a hard general coding question.
EDIT: fixed abrasive wording. | null | 1 | 1546254172 | 1546272770 | 0 | ecxst7m | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecvx55i | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxst7m/ | 1548321171 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | mishmashmishmish | t2_111qo0 | lol i read it in CinemaSins voice | null | 0 | 1546254322 | False | 0 | ecxsw2h | t3_a33mqk | null | null | t1_eb3i1lx | /r/programming/comments/a33mqk/flutter_10_googles_portable_ui_toolkit/ecxsw2h/ | 1548321206 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | thetdotbearr | t2_4tonw | That `if (x.hasValue) { ... }` approach is... kind of wrong, depending on what you're doing. You can be in one of two situations: a) I don't care whether or not the Maybe holds a value b) I want to do two different things depending on whether or not it holds a value.
In the case of a) you'd keep subsequent operations wrapped in the Maybe
val x: Option[Integer] = sin(theta);
return x.map(_ + 4);
In the case of b) you'd look into the Option
val x: Option[Integer] = sin(theta);
return x match {
case Option(a) => a + 4
case None => // handle the sad path here
}
This is using Scala and my experience was working with devs familiar with the language. If you omit the second case in that match clause in b) the compiler will (I believe) complain at you.
I can't un-fuck devs that have bad habits but what this gives you are tools to make it *much* easier to Do the Right Thing™. If you use Option and other such monads properly, you make those behaviors explicit and enable the compiler to help you not shit the bed with a missing null check. It also makes it way easier to spot in a code review if someone isn't doing their job handling missing values etc.
It might take some time to really propagate as best practice but I do genuinely think that over time most devs will come around to this. | null | 0 | 1546254403 | False | 0 | ecxsxnb | t3_aai5ap | null | null | t1_ecuea19 | /r/programming/comments/aai5ap/what_is_a_monad_computerphile/ecxsxnb/ | 1548321226 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | LandingMonkey | t2_mo5szq1 | I confirm ;) | null | 0 | 1546254495 | False | 0 | ecxszbv | t3_ab601z | null | null | t1_ecxsbvf | /r/programming/comments/ab601z/what_if_linus_torvalds_gets_hit_by_a_bus/ecxszbv/ | 1548321247 | 8 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | monkeyWifeFight | t2_3nh9b | If you think a lambda is an anti-feature (and it really is just a closure, a fundamental construct of programming language theory), you truly are lost. | null | 0 | 1546254613 | False | 0 | ecxt1h4 | t3_aac4hg | null | null | t1_ecwvcsx | /r/programming/comments/aac4hg/modern_c_lamentations/ecxt1h4/ | 1548321274 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | franzwong | t2_5ysgs | I don't think commenting is "always" a good idea. I saw people putting lots of trivial comments. It is harder to read. | null | 0 | 1546254943 | False | 0 | ecxt7pm | t3_aavv6v | null | null | t3_aavv6v | /r/programming/comments/aavv6v/the_art_of_writing_documentation/ecxt7pm/ | 1548321351 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | bakuretsu | t2_5475 | I've asked that HTTP question for years and agree it is tops.
As with all interview questions, the challenge as the interviewer is to maintain perspective on what is truly important for the candidate to know off the top of their head, versus be able to write a google search for.
If your company uses hundreds of decoupled HTTP services (as mine does), it's important for every engineer to understand HTTP fundamentals pretty well. You have to know that it's a text-based protocol with a header and some basic stuff that a header can contain.
It isn't important to understand how HTTP is encapsulated within IP, or even to have specific cache header errata memorized. If you know that there is such a thing as a cache header, you're probably going to be okay.
We take the same approach to programming questions. I'd like to see you select a reasonable data structure and be able to explain why, or choose a reasonable technology solution (RDBMS vs. NoSQL vs. KV store, etc.), and explain your reasoning. You don't have to write an ORM library in front of me. | null | 0 | 1546255246 | False | 0 | ecxtdcr | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecweeof | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxtdcr/ | 1548321420 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | bakuretsu | t2_5475 | Depends on whether they know they can't program or not. | null | 0 | 1546255304 | False | 0 | ecxtee9 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwgvwl | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxtee9/ | 1548321432 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | rebel_cdn | t2_4vhqr | Yes, 20 minutes is really long for fizzbuzz.
If you post a job ad for a software developer, you'll get plenty of applications from developers who seemingly have a productive employment history as a developer yet couldn't complete fizzbuzz even if given infinite time to do so. | null | 0 | 1546255386 | 1546435940 | 0 | ecxtfw0 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecxm2uz | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxtfw0/ | 1548321451 | 15 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | zuzzas | t2_5nbv9 | It's a legit thing, btw.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor | null | 0 | 1546255496 | False | 0 | ecxti1c | t3_ab601z | null | null | t3_ab601z | /r/programming/comments/ab601z/what_if_linus_torvalds_gets_hit_by_a_bus/ecxti1c/ | 1548321477 | 485 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | bakuretsu | t2_5475 | I think it's a great option to provide, though.
For my current job, I was given the flexibility to split it up however I wanted, and so I did two days of four hours or so each rather than one full eight-hour day.
Now, this place is geographically close to my previous job, so it wasn't a hardship in terms of transportation, I just didn't want to go through eight solid hours of interviewing. It's really exhausting.
I'm also at a point in my career where taking a day or two off from work isn't something people are paying attention to or being suspicious about. This is also why I chose the last two jobs I've had; I want to work for a place where this isn't a problem. Everyone has personal shit they have to deal with from time to time, we don't need to give them a full-court press. | null | 0 | 1546255510 | False | 0 | ecxtibe | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwm7j2 | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxtibe/ | 1548321481 | 8 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | fjafjan | t2_4c98h | >I submitted some code once and the feedback I got is that they found it concerning that I rewrote a lot of the initial code in the github repo
Honestly this could be a concern, a lot of production code is ugly and bad but crucially it \_works\_, and going in and changing code somewhere else can trample a lot of toes. I think it's completely reasonable to not want a developer doing more than what they were asked to do. | null | 0 | 1546255522 | False | 0 | ecxtiji | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwejjy | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxtiji/ | 1548321484 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | monkeyWifeFight | t2_3nh9b | This has been widely debunked, there are [more reasonable explanantions for the Judge's behaviour](https://mindhacks.com/2016/12/08/rational-judges-not-extraneous-factors-in-decisions/). | null | 0 | 1546256169 | False | 0 | ecxtv6z | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwurjr | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxtv6z/ | 1548321673 | 5 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | IshKebab | t2_htaqb | I'm not a CS graduate and that seems like a fairly easy interview question to answer with no prior knowledge (except what a binary tree and an array are, but you really *should* know those).
I don't think it is a *good* interview question, because anyone who has seen a max-heap can just recite the answer. Good interview questions can't be answered just from memory. | null | 0 | 1546256357 | False | 0 | ecxtyqw | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwizrz | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxtyqw/ | 1548321717 | 4 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | bakuretsu | t2_5475 | Even if a candidate can't write out all of the code for a problem (and we don't require that it actually run), I will be a thumbs-up if I left feeling like they will totally get it once left on their own with the internet and if they came at it in a thoughtful way, asked good questions, and was fun to work with.
I'd rather have someone fun to work with who needs some coaching than someone who either frantically stabs at problems without reflection (which I have seen several times), or who is in any way defensive or stubborn about solving the problem (which I've also seen a couple of times). | null | 0 | 1546256391 | False | 0 | ecxtzd5 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwy5cy | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxtzd5/ | 1548321725 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | taybroski | t2_3obco6d | Brainfuck and Lolcode.
Amazing. | null | 0 | 1546256503 | False | 0 | ecxu1jm | t3_ab6ce5 | null | null | t3_ab6ce5 | /r/programming/comments/ab6ce5/fizzbuzz_in_10_different_languages/ecxu1jm/ | 1548321752 | 6 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | eDOTiQ | t2_69fei | Modulus is fairly standard no? I'm not a professional developer and only develop as a hobby but how do people cycle through hours in a counter? For example when you want a script to do something() once every 4 hours. Or only do something with the object if the hour on the timestamp is a multiple of x? | null | 0 | 1546256832 | False | 0 | ecxu7zv | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecxlpc5 | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxu7zv/ | 1548321832 | 5 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | appropriateinside | t2_729ad | You really can't?
You cannot possibly think of any kind software development that doesn't involve linked lists? That knowing and reversing a linked list (or any other arbitrary technical item) is a core part of every type of development someone could do? There isn't any reason to prioritize any other knowledge over that of your stereotypical "data structures and algorithms"?
I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic here, or just lack the bredth of experience in software development. There is a lot more to engineering software than data structures and algorithms. If anything, when using most higher level languages, that is likely one of the least useful pieces of knowledge you will have when trying to deliver a product.
Expecting everyone for any development position to keep a working knowledge of "data structures and algorithms" even when its unrelated to their job duties is exactly what Microsoft is trying to fix. This is how you lose good hires, because you are no longer interviewing for the position, you are interviewing on the assumption that one single factor divides competent programmers from incompetent programmers. Which is a hell of a fallacy. | null | 0 | 1546257074 | 1546257856 | 0 | ecxucrn | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecxst7m | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxucrn/ | 1548321891 | 12 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | joeflux | t2_54k0s | I've been interviewing people, and I've been giving this fizzbuzz question. It's a great filter question. You really wouldn't believe how many "expert programmers" struggle with it.
I've also started asking people to print the 12 times table. You wouldn't believe how much people struggle with even that. (It's a javascript interview, and output the answer in console.log. so it needs you to make a string for each row)
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False | matthieum | t2_5ij2c | As Flamewire correctly surmised, it just means that the reward you get depends how far the candidate goes into the process; up until an offer is made.
There's no bypass. | null | 0 | 1546257107 | False | 0 | ecxudds | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecx25ev | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxudds/ | 1548321898 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | monkeyWifeFight | t2_3nh9b | > Is it really that difficult to fire people in the first few months who vastly oversold themselves?
In the EU, yes, it's incredibly difficult.
Even if it wasn't, do you really want the reputation as the company that fires some proportion of it's new hires after 3 months.
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False | sanderspedro | t2_z77q8 | That makes sense.
I think it is a shame that in 2018(almost 2019) we still don't have a modern SIP Server. Every once in awhile, I go back to Kamailio trying to give it a another chance, but the documentation is terrible and it is unnecessarily complicated even for the simples of use cases.
If you ever need a SIP Server give Routr a chance. I can use some feedback. I hope to grow a [community](https://routr.io/docs/introduction/community/) around this thing.
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False | invalid_dictorian | t2_72wlc | I had this arrogant dude that interview me on C++ and he was upset and yelling at me for answering a question wrong. I don't even remember what obscure thing it was. Guess I'm glad I don't have to work with an asshole like that. But it was for a job with the Xbox team. Would've been fun. Probably.
Edit: typos. Also this was circa 2011. | null | 0 | 1546257312 | 1546257742 | 0 | ecxuhhc | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwaogb | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxuhhc/ | 1548321949 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | joeflux | t2_54k0s | Yeah I'd be pretty suspicious of someone who had two github repos of such a trivial problem | null | 0 | 1546257318 | False | 0 | ecxuhla | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecxqovm | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxuhla/ | 1548321950 | 23 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | PolyPill | t2_3632e | Since they’re talking Silicon Valley salaries, I doubt it. Plus their process makes it even more absurd in the EU where at least here in Germany there is a 6 month trial period where it is easy to fire someone. But they’re clearly talking the USA where it is quite easy to fire someone new for not fulfilling job requirements.
I suspect they don’t put their H1 applicants through this BS. | null | 0 | 1546257426 | False | 0 | ecxujsr | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecxuebp | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxujsr/ | 1548321977 | 4 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | joeflux | t2_54k0s | And x.len() or len(x) | null | 0 | 1546257497 | False | 0 | ecxul68 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwo6y4 | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxul68/ | 1548321994 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | DreadedDreadnought | t2_8bn1p | And even if you don't know about the modulo operator, you could re-implement it with a while loop (efficiency is not the point here) or using division, flooring (if applicable) and subtraction.
The counter solution is also nice, but you might have to think about when to reset the counters too much.
Asking the candidate to unit test their solution could also be a fun way to see how they approach it. | null | 0 | 1546257540 | False | 0 | ecxum1b | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecxlwym | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxum1b/ | 1548322005 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | heeen | t2_4dhn8 | For fifteen just check if the five and three counter are zero at the same time | null | 0 | 1546257577 | False | 0 | ecxumsu | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecxlwym | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxumsu/ | 1548322014 | 4 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | joeflux | t2_54k0s | Wouldn't the "my" bit already require a O(log(n)) hash | null | 0 | 1546257589 | False | 0 | ecxun1d | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecxbctl | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxun1d/ | 1548322017 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | invalid_dictorian | t2_72wlc | RBT? Psst.. wait until they ask about the LGBT. And the LGBT Queue. It's a mine field. | null | 0 | 1546257608 | False | 0 | ecxunfi | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwgbgm | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxunfi/ | 1548322022 | 11 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | WelcomeToRedditPost | t2_2vua5h1e | Hello and welcome to Reddit, I see this is your first post and want to help you out, so have an upvote on me :) | null | 0 | 1546257656 | False | 0 | ecxuofw | t3_ab6ce5 | null | null | t3_ab6ce5 | /r/programming/comments/ab6ce5/fizzbuzz_in_10_different_languages/ecxuofw/ | 1548322034 | -6 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | monkeyWifeFight | t2_3nh9b | You're welcome to make whichever inferences you want, but I'm considering the world, and therefore my point is valid, you can't fire people easily in the EU.
Probationary periods do exist, and you can use them if your morality allows it. | null | 0 | 1546257747 | False | 0 | ecxuqcj | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecxujsr | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxuqcj/ | 1548322058 | 0 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Nuaua | t2_1bg7oy23 | Here's an over-complicated but kinda elegant Julia solution:
abstract type FizzBuzz end
struct Fizz <: FizzBuzz end
struct Buzz <: FizzBuzz end
Base.:*(x::FizzBuzz, y::FizzBuzz) = string(x) * string(y)
Base.:*(x::Int, y::FizzBuzz) = string(y)
Base.:*(x::FizzBuzz, y::Int) = string(x)
Base.string(x::T) where T <: FizzBuzz = string(T)
fizz(n) = n%3 == 0 ? Fizz() : n
buzz(n) = n%5 == 0 ? Buzz() : 1
@show map( n->fizz(n)*buzz(n), 1:100 )
It's more in an abstract algebra spirit, where you define your types and what it means to multiply them, and then it "just work". | null | 0 | 1546258107 | 1546258340 | 0 | ecxuxm5 | t3_ab6ce5 | null | null | t3_ab6ce5 | /r/programming/comments/ab6ce5/fizzbuzz_in_10_different_languages/ecxuxm5/ | 1548322147 | 14 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | appropriateinside | t2_729ad | I can validate your anecdote, lower level positions seem to have more technical questions. While higher-level positions focus much more on experience, troubleshooting, communication, and problem-solving ability than anything else.
My most recent position didn't ask a single technical question, in fact not a single piece of code was written or discussed. The language and frameworks I am required to know we're not even brought up. That was all sorted out before the interview, with my CV, my GitHub, and work examples. | null | 0 | 1546258150 | False | 0 | ecxuyha | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwy5jc | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxuyha/ | 1548322158 | 6 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | red75prim | t2_60lnx | I stand corrected. Understanding of monads is not required to do basic IO. But if one's understanding tells that the code below will produce `[1, 2], [3,4]`, then it's wrong understanding.
print_it =
do
x <- [1, 2]
y <- [3, 4]
return $ putStrLn (show(x) ++ "," ++ show(y))
main =
do
sequence print_it
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False | Sebbe | t2_3z3kd | It's one of the few YouTube channels I have notifications enabled for! | null | 0 | 1546258254 | False | 0 | ecxv0lc | t3_aaxvf8 | null | null | t1_ecxph0x | /r/programming/comments/aaxvf8/generation_i_pokémon_cries_explained/ecxv0lc/ | 1548322210 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | jonatasbaldin | t2_l3ewu | it's trending now, thanks very much <3 | null | 0 | 1546258405 | False | 0 | ecxv3pt | t3_aaqyit | null | null | t3_aaqyit | /r/programming/comments/aaqyit/github_jonatasbaldinawesomeawesomeawesome_awesome/ecxv3pt/ | 1548322249 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | PolyPill | t2_3632e | Wow, it’s a moral issue to fire people who lie about their abilities. | null | 0 | 1546258415 | False | 0 | ecxv3x9 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecxuqcj | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxv3x9/ | 1548322252 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | invalid_dictorian | t2_72wlc | Look I already told you, I deal with the @#$% customers so the engineers don't have to. I have people skills! I am good at dealing with people, can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people???!!! | null | 0 | 1546258439 | False | 0 | ecxv4dq | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwgvwl | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxv4dq/ | 1548322258 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Aeon_Mortuum | t2_j5t1a | >These days one have so many layers of redirection that it is downright scary.
You lose some, you gain some. | null | 0 | 1546258491 | False | 0 | ecxv5gy | t3_aajb7r | null | null | t1_ecsulri | /r/programming/comments/aajb7r/how_doom_fire_was_done/ecxv5gy/ | 1548322272 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | recycled_ideas | t2_bpl7i | You're sort of missing the point here.
The issue isn't that these questions are shit and useless, though they are.
The issue is that everything else they've tried is also shit and useless.
That's why companies try stuff like this, bevause **none** of it works. The stuff you think is just common sense is equally bad. | null | 0 | 1546258580 | False | 0 | ecxv7ch | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwfwzu | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxv7ch/ | 1548322295 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | appropriateinside | t2_729ad | You can complete it without the modulus operator.
Which is why fizzbuzz is such a great test, it's not testing technical knowledge past the extreme basics. It's testing problem-solving ability, and it can be solved in a variety of ways. | null | 0 | 1546258665 | False | 0 | ecxv92f | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecxlpc5 | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxv92f/ | 1548322315 | 7 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | appropriateinside | t2_729ad | It is pretty standard but you can go a long time without having to implement something like that these days. As our languages and frameworks become more abstract. | null | 0 | 1546258748 | False | 0 | ecxvar6 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecxu7zv | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxvar6/ | 1548322336 | 5 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | matthieum | t2_5ij2c | > Is it really that difficult to fire people in the first few months who vastly oversold themselves?
Yes, and it's costly:
1. A lot of expense goes to relocation; some of it is recoverable, but not all.
2. Training takes valuable time away from other work for the trainers, if the employee stays it's largely recouped, but hand-holding an employee for a month or two before letting them go would waste a lot of time. Also, only a limited number of new employees can be efficiently trained.
3. All new employees sign a non-competitive agreement, because the teams are small enough that they will learn key figures and technical choices within a week of starting. Enforcing the non-competitive means that they are paid for typically several months after termination, whether fired or not.
> I guess my opinion is by testing people with brain teasers then all you’re doing is finding people who read brain teaser books.
Agreed; which is why we don't really do brain teasers.
We used to have one algorithms session when I started, which was more CS than brain teaser, and even then the focus was more on interactions with the interviewers: asking questions, responding to feedback, discussing choices, etc... I think it's changed now, and is more down to earth, more "working on code together"; but I haven't taken (or given) the "new" format yet.
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False | matthieum | t2_5ij2c | > And so when you tell me your process is decent or sane or whatever, I don't believe you.
I never said it was. Indeed, as part of feedback at the end of interviews we not only give feedback to candidates but also feedback from them.
I just laid it out to illustrate the cost of it.
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False | jdgordon | t2_awbi9 | Basically nothing. Greg kh would take over the head almost certainly and there might be less vitriol in lkml. | null | 0 | 1546258909 | False | 0 | ecxve62 | t3_ab601z | null | null | t3_ab601z | /r/programming/comments/ab601z/what_if_linus_torvalds_gets_hit_by_a_bus/ecxve62/ | 1548322378 | 52 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | JoshMcguigan | t2_129wyn | There is a slightly more idiomatic Rust solution available.
```
for i in 1u32..=100 {
let divisible_by_three = i % 3 == 0;
let divisible_by_five = i % 5 == 0;
match (divisible_by_three, divisible_by_five) {
(true, true) => println!("FizzBuzz"),
(true, false) => println!("Fizz"),
(false, true) => println!("Buzz"),
(false, false) => println!("{}", i),
}
}
```
I wrote a blog post including many ways to write FizzBuzz, but focused on Rust, available [here](https://www.joshmcguigan.com/blog/fizzbuzz-tour-of-traits-rust/). | null | 0 | 1546259280 | False | 0 | ecxvm0u | t3_ab6ce5 | null | null | t3_ab6ce5 | /r/programming/comments/ab6ce5/fizzbuzz_in_10_different_languages/ecxvm0u/ | 1548322475 | 16 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
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False | [deleted] | None | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1546259375 | False | 0 | ecxvo4p | t3_ab6mop | null | null | t3_ab6mop | /r/programming/comments/ab6mop/netflix_brought_down_my_home_network/ecxvo4p/ | 1548322502 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | DooDooSlinger | t2_jp8nq | "Languages designed not to be fast or useful" - go and rust are fast, and if any of them weren't useful, they wouldn't be used. Sure, kernel code should probably be written in C, but such a sweeping generalization is just dumb circlejerk. | null | 0 | 1546259541 | False | 0 | ecxvrqi | t3_ab601z | null | null | t1_ecxvmi0 | /r/programming/comments/ab601z/what_if_linus_torvalds_gets_hit_by_a_bus/ecxvrqi/ | 1548322546 | 34 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | JavaSuck | t2_i0jv3 | > Linux, Git, C/C++
Linus doesn't even like C++. | null | 0 | 1546259551 | False | 0 | ecxvrxw | t3_ab601z | null | null | t1_ecxvmi0 | /r/programming/comments/ab601z/what_if_linus_torvalds_gets_hit_by_a_bus/ecxvrxw/ | 1548322548 | 66 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | veske | t2_dceyc | But this applies everywhere not just programming. Most people want easy solutions. Reality is that things are often times complicated and require thinking. | null | 0 | 1546259589 | False | 0 | ecxvsrw | t3_ab601z | null | null | t1_ecxvmi0 | /r/programming/comments/ab601z/what_if_linus_torvalds_gets_hit_by_a_bus/ecxvsrw/ | 1548322559 | 9 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | baggyzed | t2_k6tp2 | So the interviewer assumes that you're going to list all the possible parts that can go inside an airplane, and their dimensions, just so you can calculate their volumes? This sounds more like a physics engineering question to me.
To me, if a question like this was asked out of the blue at an interview for an IT position, I would think that the interviewer's goal is to assess your level of intelligence, because it sounds more like one of those questions they have on IQ tests.
It most definitely doesn't sound like the interviewer wants to see how well you communicate the problem solving steps in a computer programming or IT-related problem. | null | 0 | 1546259752 | False | 0 | ecxvwdd | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwypcy | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxvwdd/ | 1548322603 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | matthieum | t2_5ij2c | > This interview style very obviously biases toward people who are young, fresh grads who are still practiced in CS trivia, and have a ton of free time on their hands to spend endless hours doing practice problem after practice problem.
I have no idea why it seems that so many replies to my comment assume that when I say "interview" it must necessarily mean "how many balls fit in a 747" or CS-style questions. It's quite scary, actually, are such bad interviews really so common?
In the case I described, that's NOT AT ALL what's going on.
When I passed this interview, the content for the team I was applying for was:
- homework (~3h/4h):
- write a tic-tac-toe game: setup for the code-review session of the phone interview.
- debug a faulty concurrent queue implementation: find (and fix) the data-race, send code-review comments about the general concurrent queues.
- phone-interview:
- code review of tic-tac-toe game: justify decisions, respond to criticism, etc...
- explain concurrent queue issue, discuss multi-threading and data-races in general.
- code review of concurrent queue: give feedback on code.
- on-site sessions:
- algorithm station (1h): The basic premise is to solve two algorithmic problems, however this is more a pretext to see how you interact to solve problems *in a group*.
- coding station (1h): You get a bit of code that is untested, you are asked to write new unit tests for it. Interviewers are present to guide your exploration of the (smallish) code base.
- functional station (1h): Talk with stakeholders about your knowledge of the business domain; it's a free-form discussion, no quizz.
- wrap-up (1h): meet with technical lead and HR, give/take feedback about interviews, told whether they are ready to make an offer or not.
- informal: lunch with potential team-mates, tour of the facilities, overview of the company structure.
So, in the end, you are judged on your ability to communicate with team-mates, other developers, stakeholders, as well as judged on your ability to give/take a code review, write unit-tests, and your technical knowledge.
That's... about as far away from artificial brain teasers as you can get, I'd say. Oh, and all of this is explained up-front, and repeated at the start of each interview, just in case. | null | 0 | 1546259991 | False | 0 | ecxw1l0 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwdte6 | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxw1l0/ | 1548322667 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | matthieum | t2_5ij2c | > Imagine spending 4 hours on homework just to find out their salary range is too low.
Why did you apply in the first place, if the salary range is too low? | null | 0 | 1546260059 | False | 0 | ecxw34b | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwmgqh | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxw34b/ | 1548322686 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | matthieum | t2_5ij2c | That's a problem of "bad" assignment then, not a problem with assignments in general. | null | 0 | 1546260108 | False | 0 | ecxw48d | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwfv78 | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxw48d/ | 1548322700 | 0 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | 0x256 | t2_tz2g2 | The title is very misleading and pure click-bait. A shame, because the article itself is quite interesting.
**tl;dr:** Some DNS queries for Netflix services have answers that won't fit into an UDP packet, so the PS4 DNS client falls back to DNS-over-TCP. The author uses a PI-hole, a custom DNS server to block advertisements. This implementation does not handle DNS-over-TCP very well, and so all other devices are no longer able to resolve domain names. Netflix is not at fault. Any CDN with a high number of IPs per domain may trigger this error.
**stl;dr:** There is a bug in PI-Hole, a custom DNS server for adblocking. **Netflix didn't do anything bad.** | null | 0 | 1546260145 | 1546261038 | 0 | ecxw51y | t3_ab6mop | null | null | t3_ab6mop | /r/programming/comments/ab6mop/netflix_brought_down_my_home_network/ecxw51y/ | 1548322710 | 93 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | matthieum | t2_5ij2c | > There is absolutely no way I'm doing homework for your company if you don't even have the respect to have a phone-call first.
We expect that you are interested in the company if you submitted a resume.
I think we get most resumes from (1) student fairs, where you already talked with employees or (2) recruiters, where you already talked with the recruiter.
I am not sure what'd happen if you hadn't talked with anyone, to be honest... | null | 0 | 1546260216 | False | 0 | ecxw6ye | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwm0b6 | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxw6ye/ | 1548322735 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | jacmoe | t2_3hzym | So, the title should have been: "PI-hole is an A-hole" :) | null | 0 | 1546260298 | False | 0 | ecxw95c | t3_ab6mop | null | null | t1_ecxw51y | /r/programming/comments/ab6mop/netflix_brought_down_my_home_network/ecxw95c/ | 1548322762 | 41 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | djk29a_ | t2_avvaf | All the good ones I’ve ever heard of already did in one way or another either through market validation (see: YouTube starting as a dating site) or existing client relationships defining the product (see: SalesForce, Apptio). Github was profitable from day one as well. | null | 0 | 1546260312 | False | 0 | ecxw9iw | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwwjrv | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxw9iw/ | 1548322766 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | [deleted] | None | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1546260340 | False | 0 | ecxwaad | t3_ab6mop | null | null | t3_ab6mop | /r/programming/comments/ab6mop/netflix_brought_down_my_home_network/ecxwaad/ | 1548322804 | 11 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Equal_Entrepreneur | t2_2n2dzjh0 | You forgot the part where it takes 4 hours in the end because of all the spaghetti interdependencies thanks TO DAVE YOU IDIOT
.
and then later you realize YOU'RE dave | null | 0 | 1546260367 | False | 0 | ecxwb10 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwrvr9 | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxwb10/ | 1548322814 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | matthieum | t2_5ij2c | Self-selection at work, I suppose.
We expect people to ask polite questions when they want details, rather than scoff and be flippant. | null | 0 | 1546260448 | False | 0 | ecxwd81 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwbat7 | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxwd81/ | 1548322841 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | TheNakedGod | t2_by0by | Yes, 20 minutes is about how long it would take if you were to brute force the whole thing with very little actual understanding of the problem.
Meaning instead of going "oh it's modulus, and I'll do 3 and 5, then 3, then 5, then number, as if/else statements" they do something crazy like long division, or if they do use modulus it's the number, then 3, then 5, then 3 and 5, and it takes them the next 10min of running it and swapping the if/else order to finally get it.
We used to use a blank IDE and a completely cleared browser and tell people they can google anything but the answer if they needed to. Once they had finished, whole editor is ctrl+z and then we would redo step by step, and we'd check the browser history. It let us not only see if they could solve it correctly but how they went about it and their thought processes. Now we use that online codepad multiple user quiz company. | null | 0 | 1546260591 | False | 0 | ecxwh7g | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecxm2uz | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecxwh7g/ | 1548322890 | 5 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | FanOfHoles | t2_2ftopua8 | There is a lot of code that I avoided having to add to my projects that is _really_ good, and will survive any amount of refactoring. Until somebody else comes and says "it may be useless, but I would _really_ like to have shiny feature X or useless but fashionable abstraction Q" and writes that code. | null | 0 | 1546260691 | False | 0 | ecxwjzs | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecwjfk6 | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecxwjzs/ | 1548322924 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
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