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False | blasto_blastocyst | t2_8pp0x | You've never worked in a modern corporation then, let alone been in a position to hire anyone. | null | 0 | 1546203563 | False | 0 | ecwan5c | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecw2ckw | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwan5c/ | 1548280545 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | HeadAche2012 | t2_873xv | Yeah, I had an interview with Microsoft and they wanted me to make a red black tree from memory on a whiteboard, I couldn't recall the rotate operation from memory and they seemed upset that I had an 1st gen iphone (2009ish) Most guys I talked to didn't look at my resume for more than 10 seconds and I was the "Friday interview" for the day | null | 0 | 1546203591 | False | 0 | ecwaogb | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecvvvpy | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwaogb/ | 1548280560 | 76 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | DonnyTheWalrus | t2_hbe1n | Same. Our infrastructure team's average age is probably 45, and several of them have been there for > 20 years, because that's precisely where the highest level of experience is found. One of our developers is in her 40s and is fundamentally vital to our work. She's the first person any of us turn to for advice on business knowledge and backend/data knowledge.
Hell, our front end guy is probably 45. He had a long and productive career as a designer, built the web skills in his free time, and switched to front end dev at ~40. He's self motivated, smart, and a great designer. He makes our stuff look way better than it has any right to. So what that he didn't enter the professional world living and breathing SASS or React?
But we're only really able to find people like that because we don't do cargo-cult hiring. | null | 0 | 1546203594 | False | 1 | ecwaoky | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecvnifn | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwaoky/ | 1548280562 | 52 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | nikomo | t2_4tulx | If we hit total automation within 50 years, all it would do is drop the cost of labor to zero, completely destroy the flow of currency, and destroy society. Automated food production is useless if people have no way to buy said food.
The fact that you are too blind to understand the fact that money must keep flowing for an economy to work, is quite telling of how little you know about the topic. The rewards of automation must be given to everyone not because it is the best way, but because it is the only way.
People like you would be amongst the first to be killed in the riots after the economy collapses from greed. | null | 0 | 1546203602 | False | 0 | ecwaoy9 | t3_aandti | null | null | t1_ecw9vqf | /r/programming/comments/aandti/older_workers_pushed_out_of_work_or_forced_into/ecwaoy9/ | 1548280566 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | justfordc | t2_6es0rtf | heh, typo of course. :) (I'm not an astronomer!) | null | 0 | 1546203669 | False | 0 | ecwarzo | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwacn8 | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwarzo/ | 1548280604 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Kalium | t2_3jday | Some unions do work like guilds. A friend of mine is a surveyor and gets raises based entirely on how many hours he spends in classrooms and at job sites. Plenty of American unions care deeply about things like seniority and write benefits and promotions based around it into contracts - which to my mind is how guilds operate.
The fear is that a software developer's union would behave like a Bar Association, rather than like a union you might be familiar with. Given that in the US lots of professional software engineers are trained in ways pretty similar to how Professional Engineers are trained, it's difficult to say this is unreasonable.
Historically, some American unions have done things like exclude people for not being the right ethnicity ([example](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagel_Bakers_Local_338)). | null | 0 | 1546203692 | 1546204072 | 0 | ecwat1c | t3_aandti | null | null | t1_ecw9opg | /r/programming/comments/aandti/older_workers_pushed_out_of_work_or_forced_into/ecwat1c/ | 1548280618 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | nsiivola | t2_3hzwt | Classic! | null | 0 | 1546203741 | False | 0 | ecwav82 | t3_aanswd | null | null | t3_aanswd | /r/programming/comments/aanswd/the_tao_of_programming/ecwav82/ | 1548280645 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | mr_ryh | t2_v60hk | > I'm one of those people who really loves writing documentation.
Good to see someone else say this. I wonder if the lack of a standardized "canon" of good documentation is part of the reason people find it useless or annoying. I've always tried to emulate the style of Kernighan, Stevens, and Sussman/Abelson, because they wrote books that made complicated ideas and code seem natural and simple. Since fewer people are reading their books (K&R, APUE, SICP), I think it's harder to establish a gold standard of documentation. What do you think?
> I really have a hard time understanding people who don't bother commenting or documenting a single thing in their projects.
Writing code with comments is more work than writing code without: they're simply taking the path of least resistance. In many environments, the person who writes the code "owns" it or shares development with someone he can talk to, so the need for commenting doesn't become evident until you're debugging the shit years later, all the original devs are gone, and you can't figure out where the magic number came from or why a do-while loop is used. | null | 0 | 1546203795 | False | 0 | ecwaxm8 | t3_aavv6v | null | null | t1_ecw7x31 | /r/programming/comments/aavv6v/the_art_of_writing_documentation/ecwaxm8/ | 1548280674 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | polytopey | t2_akus2 | yeah, real engineers are better than people who are told how "genius and amazing" they are, no one knew that! /s | null | 0 | 1546203837 | False | 0 | ecwazgn | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecvvvpy | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwazgn/ | 1548280697 | -3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | webtwopointno | t2_4fihh | oakland is still kinda cool thank the goddess. check again after these next round of towers rent out however. they are doing better than the city, their plan includes both preserving AND building.
on one of the local subs someone distinguished it as LA is upfront about their superficiality, but mostly mellow. up here people pretend they are zen but find other ways to be snooty. | null | 0 | 1546203851 | False | 0 | ecwb028 | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecw16m5 | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwb028/ | 1548280705 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | cyancynic | t2_20i37 | I used to drive a really nice convertible that I never locked up. I just didn’t leave anything in it worth stealing. I still don’t lock my car. I also don’t have anything in it worth stealing.
Lock are to protect valuables. | null | 0 | 1546203889 | False | 0 | ecwb1tz | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecvy09c | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwb1tz/ | 1548280727 | 0 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | nsiivola | t2_3hzwt | This is not a programming manifesto or a howto. This is the tao of code.
Tao is somewhat sarcastic when it comes to code, in case you didn't notice. | null | 0 | 1546203910 | False | 0 | ecwb2qn | t3_aanswd | null | null | t1_ecv6g39 | /r/programming/comments/aanswd/the_tao_of_programming/ecwb2qn/ | 1548280738 | 0 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | campbellm | t2_3b632 | But not from a stock list of questions, pre-ordained. | null | 0 | 1546203927 | False | 0 | ecwb3i1 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecw5zun | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwb3i1/ | 1548280748 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | zqvt | t2_18uf4vq | >It does crazy things that no human would do.
Having played chess competitively, Alpha Zero actually seems to play more human than traditional chess engines. Sacrificing pieces for strategic positions is actually a very human thing to do. Traditional engines would minmax according to heuristics and piece scores, because Alpha Go abstracts out more human like patterns it's able to play positional chess.
Also making 'garbage moves' in won positions is human like, because a human will pick an 'easy to play' won position, over some calculated optimal solution that is not intuitive. | null | 0 | 1546203955 | False | 0 | ecwb4qu | t3_aaksym | null | null | t1_ectk38v | /r/programming/comments/aaksym/how_the_artificial_intelligence_program_alphazero/ecwb4qu/ | 1548280763 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Crispyanity | t2_6fufa | I hire developers. Honestly communication skills are number one, even over your ability to program. | null | 0 | 1546203978 | False | 0 | ecwb5rp | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t3_aaxsey | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwb5rp/ | 1548280802 | 72 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | PlymouthPolyHecknic | t2_4t5mpmn | Not sure if r/gatekeeping or r/iamverysmart | null | 0 | 1546204053 | False | 0 | ecwb95f | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecw6w7s | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwb95f/ | 1548280844 | 19 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | richraid21 | t2_pgck6 | > a home assignment
I would laugh at you if you told me to do this.
Are you hiring junior engineers with no concept of self-worth? | null | 0 | 1546204090 | False | 0 | ecwbat7 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecw4smz | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwbat7/ | 1548280864 | 11 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | BadGoyWithAGun | t2_l2l3h | And, again, as I've stated above, if that's what happens and society does collapse, I blame the people who fail to respect our fundamental liberties and property rights, and I'd absolutely rather die fighting them than be their slave. I agree that this is a possible outcome, but I disagree with the idea of more government control as a solution. | null | 0 | 1546204167 | False | 0 | ecwbe8k | t3_aandti | null | null | t1_ecwaoy9 | /r/programming/comments/aandti/older_workers_pushed_out_of_work_or_forced_into/ecwbe8k/ | 1548280907 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | bobtehpanda | t2_b55lj | If you read the article, they link to a source saying that [Google stopped this practice despite being notorious for it](https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/20/business/in-head-hunting-big-data-may-not-be-such-a-big-deal.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0).
Brain teasers hire a very specific type of person - a person that can solve puzzles. This is not really correlated with anything anyone does day to day. If you want to filter people out there are way more effective ways of doing so. They don’t really tell you anything other than how one person solves a puzzle by themselves, which is pretty useless in an environment where you work in teams, with other teams, on things that aren’t puzzles. | null | 0 | 1546204181 | 1546204698 | 0 | ecwbevm | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwam9x | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwbevm/ | 1548280915 | 10 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | crossCounter23 | t2_1mfl202p | Are you dumb? | null | 0 | 1546204233 | False | 0 | ecwbh5d | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecw66yt | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwbh5d/ | 1548280943 | 0 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | xiongchiamiov | t2_3fta2 | In Silicon Valley and (barely) in my twenties, I also don't work more than 40 hours a week. There are plenty of shitty companies but also plenty of non-shitty ones, because there are just a hell of a lot of companies period. | null | 0 | 1546204271 | False | 0 | ecwbiyt | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecvmcpe | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwbiyt/ | 1548280966 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | hotsauce285 | t2_4h8bx | I'm in a pretty nice sweet spot myself. I technically work for a megacorp but my team is a start up they bought and just let us do our own thing. | null | 0 | 1546204285 | False | 0 | ecwbjn6 | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecw8bxy | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwbjn6/ | 1548280974 | 5 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | nonamebcb | t2_o56gu | /r/learnprogramming | null | 0 | 1546204312 | False | 0 | ecwbkww | t3_aax9gi | null | null | t3_aax9gi | /r/programming/comments/aax9gi/android_cab_booking_app_tutorial/ecwbkww/ | 1548280990 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | phpdevster | t2_f1b58 | Same here. | null | 0 | 1546204342 | False | 0 | ecwbmeb | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecvvvpy | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwbmeb/ | 1548281008 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | dblake123 | t2_ewy86 | >int v,i,j,k,l,s,a[99];
> main() {
>//Prints the N-Queens solution to the console
for(scanf("%d",&s);*a-s;v=a[j*=v]-a[i],k=i<s,j+=(v=j<s&&(!k&&!!printf(2+"\n\n%c"-(!l<<!j)," #Q"[l^v?(l^j)&1:2])&&++l||a[i]<s&&v&&v-i+j&&v+i-j))&&!(l%=s),v||(i==j?a[i+=k]=0:++a[i])>=s*k&&++a[--i]);
}
I would never allow this to pass code review. I don't care if you put a single comment line telling me what it does. This is not maintainable, difficult to understand, and they are doing way way way to much at once. This needs to be broken out into functions.
Documentation is getting a lot easier these days with programs like Atlassian products and gitlab. You don't need to put your comments in code anymore. You can link your code to cases, code reviews, and wiki's so you can really explain what the hell is happening.
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False | sanderspedro | t2_z77q8 | Thanks a lot! I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks that OpenSIPS/Kamailio is daunting. My goal is to make Routr easy to deploy for the most common use cases.
For the most part the project uses Javascript (Oracle Nashorn). The exception is the command-line interface or `rctl` which was developed with Java.
Don't mind me asking, but what are you building hat need a SIP server? | null | 0 | 1546204459 | False | 0 | ecwbs39 | t3_a8xl5o | null | null | t1_ecw6eca | /r/programming/comments/a8xl5o/i_decided_to_build_my_own_sip_server_and_i_think/ecwbs39/ | 1548281078 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | sobels | t2_bdhcu | > Each machine word is assumed to hold at least log2(n) bits
Given that we're doing asymptotic analysis, does this assumption really make sense? I realize that you half-address this in the latter half of your comment. | null | 0 | 1546204476 | False | 0 | ecwbswp | t3_aavq8r | null | null | t1_ecw64ku | /r/programming/comments/aavq8r/reversing_an_nbit_number_in_olog_n_time/ecwbswp/ | 1548281089 | 4 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | ECloud3 | t2_dz1y4 | You know what I'm not positive. It was one of the first sites I found. There might be a better solution out there for getting APK files. | null | 0 | 1546204507 | False | 0 | ecwbufu | t3_aa3mws | null | null | t1_ecubmlq | /r/programming/comments/aa3mws/extract_permissions_and_dependencies_from_an_apk/ecwbufu/ | 1548281108 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Viklove | t2_4eza6 | By that logic old people write bad code too | null | 0 | 1546204526 | False | 0 | ecwbvdc | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecw87ik | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwbvdc/ | 1548281119 | 8 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | alufpikud | t2_1vqpahan | I have been in a successful start up where most of the developers were in their early 40' and work finished at 6. So they do exist, it is just that most people in this age don't want to risk their time on a startup but once they do they just do it in a more relaxed way. I have noticed that in certain fields the average age is much higher like in the fintech world of startups where you need to have some experience and domain knowledge before you start something of your own. If you make a new snapchat it is a different story. | null | 0 | 1546204575 | False | 0 | ecwbxr0 | t3_aav9js | null | null | t3_aav9js | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwbxr0/ | 1548281149 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | philocto | t2_6jxjx | the quote "if you build it they will come" is bullshit, don't believe it.
They won't come, which is why you need to learn marketing. If you can build a java jvm implementation you have the technical skills, work on the soft skills. | null | 0 | 1546204963 | False | 0 | ecwcfxm | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecvzprn | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwcfxm/ | 1548281402 | 54 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | fried_green_baloney | t2_41ql7 | Any question that begins "Why are you . . ." will put the person being questioned on the defensive.
I consider it quite offensive for the clear implication that there is something wrong with somebody for working. | null | 0 | 1546204984 | False | 0 | ecwcgw6 | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecw4xvl | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwcgw6/ | 1548281413 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | philocto | t2_6jxjx | My favorite is when you start getting compilation errors and realize you're writing the wrong language. | null | 0 | 1546204997 | False | 0 | ecwchgs | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecw5xb3 | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwchgs/ | 1548281420 | 40 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | bobtehpanda | t2_b55lj | Google has actually disavowed this practice. | null | 0 | 1546205018 | False | 0 | ecwciga | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecw5wa5 | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwciga/ | 1548281432 | 23 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | dragonnyxx | t2_4oi9q | That's straight-up bullshit. If you know what a balanced binary tree *is* and can describe a situation in which it might be useful, that's good enough for any reasonable purpose.
There's absolutely no reason you'd need to memorize the actual algorithm. If you run into a situation where a balanced binary tree is useful, you know how to recognize this situation and can use a well-tested off-the-shelf implementation of the algorithm. Even for the very, very rare situation where you do find yourself needing to write your own implementation of it for some reason, that's what books / Google are for. | null | 0 | 1546205059 | False | 0 | ecwckef | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwaogb | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwckef/ | 1548281458 | 110 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Viklove | t2_4eza6 | Those aren't all the options though -- Chicago is a pretty nice place to live. | null | 0 | 1546205068 | False | 0 | ecwckti | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecvyut0 | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwckti/ | 1548281462 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | muc26 | t2_lgd0dum | Be a bit more confident in yourself my man, such questions won’t bother you! | null | 0 | 1546205104 | False | 0 | ecwcmjs | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecwcgw6 | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwcmjs/ | 1548281483 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Somepotato | t2_61zcz | It was just a personal project. I figured it'd be good as a reference to something I did. I'm working on a more real world project now though. Thanks for the advice all! | null | 0 | 1546205129 | False | 0 | ecwcnr2 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecw8zp0 | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwcnr2/ | 1548281500 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | alufpikud | t2_1vqpahan | I just wonder, how interviews work for lawyers or doctors or other type of jobs? How do they assess the skills of the candidate? What about other fields which are more engineering like Architects or structure engineers? Are they being tested? | null | 0 | 1546205147 | False | 0 | ecwcok8 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t3_aaxsey | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwcok8/ | 1548281509 | 58 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | philocto | t2_6jxjx | it's different in software dev once you get a few years under your belt.
I know how to write a loop and I know under what circumstances a foreach style loop is superior to a normal for loop, but that doesn't stop me from looking up the documentation of for loops in powershell because I don't use it that often and PS tends to be quirky as shit.
If you're working strictly in a single language on a single tech stack your entire life then sure, you can compare that to physicists who don't have to work on various different realities.
But even then knowing what formula to use is more valuable than knowing the formula itself. | null | 0 | 1546205185 | False | 0 | ecwcqdh | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecw6w7s | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwcqdh/ | 1548281532 | 4 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Game_Ender | t2_33b51 | It’s just means you have the freedom to leave a crappy job, focus on those hobbies your presumably missed working 50-70 hours a week, chose to work part time, or work on something that doesn’t pay as well or is “risky” without worrying about money. Your also don’t have to worry about ageism as you get older, because you don’t actually need the job. | null | 0 | 1546205207 | False | 0 | ecwcred | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecw66yt | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwcred/ | 1548281544 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | kuzux | t2_4v4qw | And the programming community seems to have come to the conclusion "yeah, you can but it doesn't mean that you should" | null | 0 | 1546205256 | False | 0 | ecwctsk | t3_aanswd | null | null | t1_ecvlvsq | /r/programming/comments/aanswd/the_tao_of_programming/ecwctsk/ | 1548281574 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | phillipcarter2 | t2_gxfjqq4 | Was gonna pipe in to say the same thing.
It’s a good process and think it helps us, but the article is misleading. Devs are not hired through this process and it’s a DevDiv thing. Though I wouldn’t mind if other PM orgs adopted something like it :) | null | 0 | 1546205316 | False | 0 | ecwcwp2 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecw6ori | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwcwp2/ | 1548281612 | 65 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | philocto | t2_6jxjx | the rationale for it was stupid even then. The argument was to try and test if a candiate will just give up or take a stab at a task that seems to have no real answer.
i remember reading this stuff and knowing for sure that I was one of the candidates that wouldn't even try for 2 reasons.
1. I don't give a shit how many ping pong balls can fit into a plane, and you can't motivate me to care, and
2. If I can google the answer to the question I'm sure as shit not going to waste my time trying to figure it out.
Which segues into another point. If you ask a question in an interview that can be answered with a simple google search, you're doing it wrong. | null | 1 | 1546205347 | False | 0 | ecwcy73 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecvxzcf | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwcy73/ | 1548281630 | -3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | ObscureCulturalMeme | t2_gs28j | *raises hand*
*looks at `time_t` again*
...
*keeps looking at <time.h>, forgets about raised hand*
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False | dragonnyxx | t2_4oi9q | Google stopped the non-programming "how many ping pong balls can fit in a 747" type of brain teaser many years ago.
They still very much do programming brain teasers, or at least "highly artificial problems which don't in any way reflect the challenges you will actually face in day-to-day programming". Sure, not all of the interview questions are like that, but a bunch are. | null | 0 | 1546205445 | 1546205639 | 0 | ecwd2z3 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwbevm | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwd2z3/ | 1548281689 | 18 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | xFount | t2_t623t | So how can you find them? :P | null | 0 | 1546205488 | False | 0 | ecwd52w | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecw5me9 | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwd52w/ | 1548281715 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | DrGirlfriend | t2_37g8s | Really? Making less than $200K is failure now? You either have a severely warped view of reality, or you are an insufferable egomaniac making an attempt at a humblebrag that failed. | null | 0 | 1546205491 | False | 0 | ecwd56v | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecw1xdw | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwd56v/ | 1548281716 | 6 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | fried_green_baloney | t2_41ql7 | My manager has asked me a hostile question.
What will confidence do for me in that situation? | null | 0 | 1546205493 | False | 0 | ecwd5a2 | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecwcmjs | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwd5a2/ | 1548281717 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | FrozenAsss | t2_2u5lrwd3 | I don't even know anyone that works as much as 40h per week , that's some American bullshit. Also why would anyone work at a crappy workplace. | null | 0 | 1546205625 | False | 0 | ecwdbrs | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecwcred | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwdbrs/ | 1548281797 | -1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Game_Ender | t2_33b51 | That is probably the rule for topping out at a FAANG tier company in a technical role. The thing is not that many people reach it (like 5-15% of a company), and it’s on the order of 10 years of experience and good performance. My range though was $240-480k which is a more reasonable total compensation band for a typical “senior” engineer, 5+ years experience with good performance.
Housing is the killer one, really, but many other things in life don’t change price based on where you live (vacations, cars, consumer goods) If you don’t rent you also get to sell that house, move somewhere cheap and pocket the difference in equity, so all the extra money is not lost. | null | 0 | 1546205638 | False | 0 | ecwdcft | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecwacu5 | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwdcft/ | 1548281806 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Madshibentist | t2_gnvyc | Something I wonder if how often becoming insanely rich and retiring actually happens. I mean, yes, we all know (or at least have heard of) people who've done it, but you have to be lucky. Someone who joined Google early on made a fortune and is retired already? Brilliant. What about the poor soul that joined Alta Vista? Or joined but joined too late to make insane money and just did okay instead?
I do get the impression basically those that make crazy money stay, those who don't leave, and survivorship bias makes everyone think those over 30 must be able to retire.
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False | jjseven | t2_3go2r | Your comment about EE being more forgiving is true; SRL a few years and the results are the same. There is always a corp. pressure to eliminate senior salaries not deemed useful and that value assessment is quite political. As such many EEs go into middle mgmt and higher to avoid getting dumped. I recall a study that said eliminating jobs randomly in any downsizing would trend to be more productive that the decisions of mgmt. 8-)
But there are 2 things demographically in your favor:
* The logjam of boomers at the top is about to burst, and
* that bursting will create a dearth of skill that even frugal companies will notice....
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False | locotx | t2_4cdu0 | I agree. If you define your life by your job title then you are at the mercy of those who give you that title. I work to live, not live to work. | null | 0 | 1546205759 | False | 0 | ecwdiat | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecvgcp1 | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwdiat/ | 1548281878 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | dblake123 | t2_ewy86 | I generally will tell people to steer away from startups. It's a risk. It's fine if you are in your twenties. You can fuck up and lose your job and still have time to make it up in your thirties. Job security starts to mean something when you have a family and have a house and things like that. | null | 0 | 1546205769 | False | 0 | ecwdisx | t3_aav9js | null | null | t3_aav9js | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwdisx/ | 1548281885 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | ex_nihilo | t2_3i3r8 | Lots of companies do it and it's not unreasonable. Some of the best places I've worked used a simple programming exercise as a way to weed out bogus resumes. Seriously, if you get 800 resumes, maybe 8 of them will actually know how to write code. I've always found them fun. I've never done a programming challenge for an entry-level position, only more senior roles. And it's the kind of thing that if you really are senior it is going to take you a trivial amount of time. | null | 0 | 1546205788 | False | 0 | ecwdjre | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwbat7 | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwdjre/ | 1548281896 | 11 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Xuval | t2_tc3ighv | But I thought everyone on the Internet was from America and everyone from America was from California?! | null | 0 | 1546205815 | False | 0 | ecwdl3z | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecvgktg | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwdl3z/ | 1548281914 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | v_krishna | t2_3mps3 | Chicago is also 30 degrees colder than it is here in the east bay right now. And no mountains, no ocean, no Redwoods, etc. And certainly nowhere near as big of a specialized tech scene as SF & Seattle (and to a lesser extent, Boston, Austin, Denver, Research Triangle Area). Don't get me wrong, I like Chicago and love the Great Lakes region. I just don't like the circle jerk that crazy housing + techbros mean the bay area is some kind of dystopian libertarian hellscape. At least in the east bay it's not like that at all. | null | 0 | 1546205831 | False | 0 | ecwdlxv | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecwckti | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwdlxv/ | 1548281924 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | nrg13 | t2_1ck10 | https is configured, and working correctly. However, the page will serve data over http.
Do you mean that http > https by 301 or similar should be mandatory? | null | 0 | 1546205849 | False | 0 | ecwdmtl | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecvu6sf | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwdmtl/ | 1548281935 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Somepotato | t2_61zcz | Oh it was just an example of a personal project. I'm not sure what to make to use as resume bloat but I have good hope my current project will be that. It's just my current location makes it nearly impossible to get work experience and anyone who offers relocation wants college experience. | null | 0 | 1546205878 | False | 0 | ecwdoa3 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecw90uq | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwdoa3/ | 1548281953 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | GTdspDude | t2_4rmzu | I worked for a few years in Xbox HW and they asked me those types of questions back in 2010 so it’s definitely not quite that old. | null | 0 | 1546205907 | False | 0 | ecwdpqs | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecvxzcf | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwdpqs/ | 1548281971 | 15 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | cisco_frisco | t2_h1z1eio | >you gonna sit at home and watch tv all day?
Maybe I want to retrain and learn how to restore antique furniture, purely because I want to focus on the pleasure of the craft and not the money?
On the other hand, maybe I want buy a cheap vacation home in Europe or Asia somewhere and just spend the future traveling the world?
The point about become financially independent is that once you're immediate financial needs are taken care of, you can focus on whatever YOU want to do that will make YOU happy.
I'm not pursuing FI myself, but I can already imagine just how emotionally and financially liberating it's going to be when I eventually hit the point where my mortgage is paid off and I have enough money in my 401k to just... walk away from a job and never have to worry again.
If you really can't think of anything better to do with your time at that point than sitting and home and watching TV all the day, the problem is likely one that you're going to be able to identify in your bathroom mirror. | null | 0 | 1546205942 | False | 0 | ecwdrgr | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecw66yt | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwdrgr/ | 1548282019 | 5 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | mbarkhau | t2_492c4 | Assuming a good faith effort on the part of your fellow developers, then the issue might be that either the scripts are too complex or the documentation needs better structure. What is the absolute minimum the reader needs to know to accomplish a task. Then again, maybe your fellow developers are just too lazy or daft. | null | 0 | 1546205967 | False | 0 | ecwdsnz | t3_aavv6v | null | null | t1_ecw7bxa | /r/programming/comments/aavv6v/the_art_of_writing_documentation/ecwdsnz/ | 1548282034 | 4 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | dead10ck | t2_8it2g | >>Also note that the top companies do not care as much about losing a good candidate as they do about hiring a bad one. Losing a good candidate costs far less than hiring and potentially firing a bad one. Therefore they optimize for reducing the false positives rather than reducing the false negatives.
>
>This.
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>It's "unfair", in a way, but companies are not aiming for fair, they're aiming for efficient.
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>…
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>So, yes, the process is designed to cut losses early, which means we're probably not giving a chance to good candidates because they don't fit our specific process. It's something we're aware of, but a secondary concern to the cost of extending an offer.
I understand reducing costs completely, but I have a couple of problems with this line of logic. The argument seems to be:
1. False positives are more expensive than false negatives
1. Optimizing for false positives and false negatives are inversely related
1. Therefore, it is most efficient to optimize 100% for reducing false negatives
1. Furthermore, if someone is good at solving a problem they've never seen before with no preparation in a high pressure setting, chances are good that they are a good developer
1. Therefore, the above interview style is most efficient at reducing false negatives.
2 seems wrong to me. Optimizing completely for one or the other may lead to different styles of interview, but they do not necessarily need to be mutually exclusive. You can try to optimize for both.
It follows also that 3 isn't optimal. If you end up turning down a significant percentage of candidates that could do the job, or a significant percentage of candidates turn down the job because they had such a bad experience, you're just wasting all the time you tabulated—on purpose, in the name of ultra conservatism. Yes, false positives are far more expensive, but again, you can try to optimize for both.
I'm not denying that 4 is true, but I also don't buy that it is more efficient than having a sane interview process that is designed to find people who can do the job, instead of people who handle high pressure well and are either high IQ or highly practiced this interview style.
This interview style very obviously biases toward people who are young, fresh grads who are still practiced in CS trivia, and have a ton of free time on their hands to spend endless hours doing practice problem after practice problem.
Another huge problem I have with it is that it seems to assume that a company has uniform needs across all of its engineering departments and teams. If you're Google, for example, you may well have a lot of teams that legitimately need to be highly skilled at rolling off new algorithms quickly, but you also probably have many teams that have proportionately mundane requirements. In other words, this methodology is aimed at picking exclusively top notch talent, rather than evaluating appropriate needs.
When you consider the ratio of people who can do the job to the people who can pass these tough interviews, and this pervasive culture of only wanting the best of the best, I'm just flabbergasted at how many companies that do this also seem to think there is some kind of "talent shortage" in the industry, and seem surprised to realize that they have a chronic problem with workplace diversity. | null | 0 | 1546205981 | 1546212008 | 0 | ecwdte6 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecw4smz | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwdte6/ | 1548282042 | 16 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | bro_can_u_even_carve | t2_mdeww | I'm not following. As a candidate, a reasonable home assignment is far less demanding and annoying than having to spend more hours in an in-person interview. I'd much rather write code on my own computer at a time of my own choosing than having to do it on a whiteboard while suited up and without sufficient caffeine. | null | 0 | 1546206020 | False | 0 | ecwdv8t | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwbat7 | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwdv8t/ | 1548282065 | 15 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | kkapelon | t2_lh09z | I got this in Google in 2012 | null | 0 | 1546206033 | False | 0 | ecwdvvq | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecvxzcf | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwdvvq/ | 1548282073 | 23 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | EnvironmentalClock8 | t2_2w341b2j | Man, this thread has everything, including armchair psychiatrists. | null | 0 | 1546206042 | False | 0 | ecwdwcb | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecvx2l6 | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwdwcb/ | 1548282079 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | aesu | t2_6zc3t | That doesn't follow, though. | null | 0 | 1546206044 | False | 0 | ecwdwff | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecw48by | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwdwff/ | 1548282079 | 0 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | locotx | t2_4cdu0 | Nah, try working for an Indian company. You talk about leveraging your job, cutting salaries and nepotism. I do agree many American programmers are spoiled and have insane perk requests, but my company scheduled work to be completed by Christmas eve forcing us to work over the weekend, fully aware many had plans to visit family for the holiday.... but they didn't care.... why? Indian company | null | 0 | 1546206070 | False | 0 | ecwdxpo | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecvqk08 | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwdxpo/ | 1548282096 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
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False | IntenseIntentInTents | t2_963ar | Not especially, but I like looking back on things with excessive fondness. | null | 0 | 1546206094 | False | 0 | ecwdywu | t3_aaqyit | null | null | t1_ecw7nuc | /r/programming/comments/aaqyit/github_jonatasbaldinawesomeawesomeawesome_awesome/ecwdywu/ | 1548282111 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | 13steinj | t2_i487l | > Yes, easily, but we usually don't care about O(f(n)) where n is a number, we care about the length of the encoding of that number
In most cases-- yes, but you'd be surprised what some people ask. | null | 0 | 1546206116 | False | 0 | ecwdzyj | t3_aavq8r | null | null | t1_ecvyzoe | /r/programming/comments/aavq8r/reversing_an_nbit_number_in_olog_n_time/ecwdzyj/ | 1548282123 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Madshibentist | t2_gnvyc | > I can't do any of those brain teasers
Non-coding brain teasers I now consider a negative indicator for the company, as in I'll probably fail (because I don't practice them) and that's convenient because it saves me having to turn them down. | null | 0 | 1546206135 | False | 0 | ecwe0wy | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecvvvpy | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwe0wy/ | 1548282136 | 27 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | itzthespider | t2_2b1trhsa | Sounds logical | null | 0 | 1546206294 | False | 0 | ecwe8vy | t3_aawwgf | null | null | t3_aawwgf | /r/programming/comments/aawwgf/using_logical_operators_for_logical_operations_is/ecwe8vy/ | 1548282236 | 31 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | [deleted] | None | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1546206336 | False | 0 | ecweaxn | t3_aac4hg | null | null | t1_ecrwgep | /r/programming/comments/aac4hg/modern_c_lamentations/ecweaxn/ | 1548282261 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | DarkDuskBlade | t2_xe7ay | Well, things that come up often are naturally going to be memorized. But I wouldn't expect (and I went to Branches of Physics on wiki for these, I don't know how much overlap there might actually be) a physicist that specializes in Optics to have something memorized from, say, Relativity or Electromagnetism. The whole point, at least in that context, was that it was silly to expect a bunch of high-schoolers who had maybe 30 hours of work on a single subject (god, I hated the students in that class, they did more talking and goofing off than letting the teacher teach) to memorize something like 60 formulae for an exam.
And that definitely translates to at least programming languages. I know C# relatively well and enough of the principles that C++ had years ago that C#'s only now getting (particularly pointers) that I can at least read and work with basic Java stuff, but I'm probably going to have to look up how it's implemented specifically for Java. | null | 0 | 1546206357 | False | 0 | ecwebx7 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecw6w7s | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwebx7/ | 1548282274 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | tuckmuck203 | t2_5816u | I'm the only young developer on my team, and we're in a very urban area on the east coast. Thing is, there's a lot of companies who just want reliable, stable software. Sure, I'm only making 80k (yes, I know objectively speaking that's a shit load, but as far as CS jobs go, it's okay). But I get 4 weeks vacation, sick health insurance, plus holidays and bonuses. And everyone is a pleasure to work with.
I worked at a startup during college, and holy shit I do not want to live through that again. I'll take a nice stable job where I don't have to worry about money, and have tons of free time. West coast just sounds exhausting. | null | 0 | 1546206358 | False | 0 | ecwebyw | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecvz1kh | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwebyw/ | 1548282275 | 27 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | remmiz | t2_4f78h | This right here. In my company, we rarely give coding tests except to individuals without much experience; even then they are fairly basic. We assume that if you've been able to hold a job as a developer for at least 3-4 years, you probably have the coding skills required. The most code we'll go over is usually just a quick review of some notoriously smelly methods.
What we do look for and question on is communication skills. Having them describe past projects, reasons for using tech stack A over B, etc.
My personal go-to question is to have them describe to me what happens in a typical HTTP request. I'm not looking for them to give me in-depth details or cover every step but rather how well they can articulate a pretty technical process. And if they can't tell me anything, well, that's a pretty big red flag as having basic knowledge around HTTP is pretty important for working on all of our company's products. | null | 0 | 1546206415 | 1546216882 | 0 | ecweeof | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwb5rp | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecweeof/ | 1548282308 | 47 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | satisfying_outcome | t2_26ak2d6s | Had a similar experience as a grad. As an interviewer now the question just seems masturbatory. I don't want to hire off ability to conclude off conjecture, I want to see an engineer's ability to rapidly build a strategy. | null | 0 | 1546206479 | False | 0 | ecwehrc | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecw5uq8 | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwehrc/ | 1548282346 | 11 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | philocto | t2_6jxjx | Everyone thinks their process is sane, and yet...
About 2 or 3 years ago I decided to start interviewing after years of freelancing and I was blown away by how bad companies are at finding good people. I maintain some software that works across multiple datacenters in several different countries and I've had to stop talking about it in interviews because for some reason that would get me labelled devops rather than software dev despite me having a degree in CS & Math and 20 years of experience across many different languages and OS's.
I submitted some code once and the feedback I got is that they found it concerning that I rewrote a lot of the initial code in the github repo. I just submitted more code in another interview process yesterday and specifically didn't change the interfaces they had despite the fact that in production I absolutely would have because it had deficiencies. And I'm seriously waiting for this company to tell me they were looking for those interfaces to be updated.
So often the feedback is just random, one company thinks I'm weak in web dev, the other thinks I do too much in web dev, and so forth.
Thankfully, for me this entire process is more about "I would go to work full time for a company for X amount" and not because I need the employment specifically. But I can't imagine how others feel when they DO need the employment.
And so when you tell me your process is decent or sane or whatever, I don't believe you. I don't believe you because people in general are stupid, biased creatures and unless you're specifically trying to minimize bias you're passing over people because someone on your team doesn't like that they used snake_case instead of camelCase or PascalCase.
That's just the reality. | null | 0 | 1546206517 | False | 0 | ecwejjy | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecw4smz | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwejjy/ | 1548282368 | 26 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | erdouche | t2_udeye | MiCrOsEcOnDs | null | 0 | 1546206560 | False | 0 | ecweloi | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwb95f | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecweloi/ | 1548282395 | 13 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | tim0901 | t2_gisub | The interviewer isn't looking for you to come up with the right answer, what they want to see is your thought process and how you approach the problem.
You could give them the perfect answer, but if you do so after sitting in silence for 2 minutes they're not going to think particularly highly of you. They want to hear you voicing the assumptions and estimations you need to come up with a reasonable answer, since this "proves" that you're able to solve problems, whilst also able to explain your working to others as would be expected in a team environment. | null | 0 | 1546206677 | False | 0 | ecwerev | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecw7a7q | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwerev/ | 1548282465 | 4 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | hopfield | t2_15y1ak | Why not at the high tier companies? Aren’t you pretty much confirming what he said? | null | 0 | 1546206686 | False | 0 | ecwerue | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecw1fjj | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwerue/ | 1548282471 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | jormundgard | t2_56m4f | Google maps was a startup built by older programmers (>40), and later purchased by Google. | null | 0 | 1546206698 | False | 0 | ecwesjy | t3_aav9js | null | null | t3_aav9js | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwesjy/ | 1548282479 | 9 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | I_RAPE_BANDWIDTH | t2_h02vo | What’s a spark like solution? | null | 0 | 1546206722 | False | 0 | ecwetsc | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecw7t64 | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwetsc/ | 1548282495 | 25 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | dead10ck | t2_8it2g | I figured this was the case when they also said that Google does not do this style of interview any more, which is also very untrue.
Source: just interviewed at Google a few months ago. | null | 0 | 1546206746 | False | 0 | ecwev19 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecw6ori | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwev19/ | 1548282510 | 45 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | MMPride | t2_2r7kfn4u | Yeah but his point is, companies shouldn't be gatekeeping industry-proven programmers with pointless, unrelated-to-work brain teasers. | null | 0 | 1546206747 | 1546206931 | 0 | ecwev3j | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecvx0wy | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwev3j/ | 1548282511 | 27 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | RockyK | t2_7dcje | I was asked brain-teasers two years ago at a freelancing interview. I didn't get the job. (Because I suck at brain-teasers.) | null | 0 | 1546206790 | False | 0 | ecwexbw | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecvxzcf | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwexbw/ | 1548282538 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | nile1056 | t2_elqsn | Yes, that's what that means. | null | 0 | 1546206802 | False | 0 | ecwexws | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecwbvdc | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwexws/ | 1548282546 | 36 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | pydry | t2_lhewq | Mid 30s and I'm starting to feel older than average these days in central London.
I worked outside the M25 for a few months last year and I felt young again.
I've definitely seen age discrimination in London startups. Hiring managers seem to feel weird about hiring people older than they are. | null | 0 | 1546206912 | False | 0 | ecwf3jw | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecvz1kh | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwf3jw/ | 1548282642 | 5 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Calavar | t2_gm1q8 | Yeah, I guess I should clarify. They weren't promising
us that we'd be rolling in cash like some kind of investment banker - they were still offering less than the big name Silicon Valley companies. But the pay was functionally equivalent to Google/Facebook/Apple considering the lower cost of living. (Unless you are dead set on living in Manhattan instead of commuting.) | null | 0 | 1546206922 | 1546207408 | 0 | ecwf41k | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecvzsbs | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwf41k/ | 1548282648 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | [deleted] | None | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1546206936 | False | 0 | ecwf4s9 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwckef | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwf4s9/ | 1548282657 | 116 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | IshikawaSama | t2_2tfsv1bd | Well honestly I think also how the big4 make money makes the world worse for everyone, especially Google and Facebook | null | 0 | 1546206979 | False | 0 | ecwf6xc | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecwa3qj | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwf6xc/ | 1548282683 | 8 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | realnoobymcnoob | t2_29kety6r | I see, so only your subset should be used. | null | 0 | 1546206999 | False | 0 | ecwf7wk | t3_aac4hg | null | null | t1_ecvn7r6 | /r/programming/comments/aac4hg/modern_c_lamentations/ecwf7wk/ | 1548282695 | 0 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | ex_nihilo | t2_3i3r8 | No disagreement. | null | 0 | 1546207024 | False | 0 | ecwf94x | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecwf6xc | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwf94x/ | 1548282711 | 5 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | erdouche | t2_udeye | What? Haskell is great, and it's just as easy as Python but in a functional paradigm. Not sure what you mean by "neurotic". | null | 1 | 1546207082 | False | 0 | ecwfbxy | t3_aavxpp | null | null | t1_ecvuear | /r/programming/comments/aavxpp/advent_of_haskell_thoughts_and_lessons_learned/ecwfbxy/ | 1548282746 | 4 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | [deleted] | None | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1546207095 | False | 0 | ecwfcjl | t3_aav9js | null | null | t1_ecwdwcb | /r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwfcjl/ | 1548282753 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | fmv_ | t2_1028xye4 | I got asked some last year at some startupy company in SF. I was not prepared at all. | null | 0 | 1546207137 | False | 0 | ecwfel3 | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecvxzcf | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwfel3/ | 1548282778 | 9 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | p0nce | t2_3ijyx | It was a very real but very old bug. | null | 0 | 1546207186 | False | 0 | ecwfgyj | t3_aac4hg | null | null | t1_ecsn2g1 | /r/programming/comments/aac4hg/modern_c_lamentations/ecwfgyj/ | 1548282808 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Eirenarch | t2_46hjd | But we're not talking about brainteasers. Brainteasers were a thing 2 decades ago. Even MS killed the practice before Google did. Brainteasers sucks and nobody uses them anymore. We're talking about algorithmic whiteboard stuff. The article claims MS is moving away from these too. | null | 0 | 1546207284 | False | 0 | ecwfloo | t3_aaxsey | null | null | t1_ecwbevm | /r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwfloo/ | 1548282867 | 7 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
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