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False | shevegen | t2_atqp | TempleOS 2.0! | null | 0 | 1544443992 | False | 0 | ebhpfdn | t3_a4sqkc | null | null | t3_a4sqkc | /r/programming/comments/a4sqkc/operating_systems_development_for_dummies/ebhpfdn/ | 1547427099 | 35 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | freakhill | t2_5oqxd | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebSocket
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMPP | null | 0 | 1545660514 | False | 0 | ecggk28 | t3_a93598 | null | null | t3_a93598 | /r/programming/comments/a93598/whats_the_difference_between_xmpp_and_websockets/ecggk28/ | 1548013734 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | delfinom | t2_37zuf | That's generally how it works..... | null | 0 | 1544444094 | False | 0 | ebhpht5 | t3_a4tznm | null | null | t1_ebhnsli | /r/programming/comments/a4tznm/eset_discovers_21_new_linux_malware_families_all/ebhpht5/ | 1547427129 | 5 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
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False | x89k | t2_1iwkwhjk | I constructed this divine intellect kernel to allow me to communicate with terry davis | null | 0 | 1544444144 | False | 0 | ebhpizs | t3_a4sqkc | null | null | t1_ebhpfdn | /r/programming/comments/a4sqkc/operating_systems_development_for_dummies/ebhpizs/ | 1547427143 | 36 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Schmittfried | t2_p3a6y | Of course you can expect everything. But it won’t happen, and it doesn’t have to. It’s an unfounded expectation. | null | 0 | 1545660551 | False | 0 | ecggl6a | t3_a90xot | null | null | t1_ecgc8zh | /r/programming/comments/a90xot/making_a_game_in_turbo_pascal_302/ecggl6a/ | 1548013747 | 4 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | i_am_bromega | t2_8wvcw | Because sometimes the business wants to be in LA. The fintech company I work with out there has offices around the world but the HQ is there because the CEO loves the city. Practically speaking, the dev talent and financial clients would be easier to find in other cities. But it turns out you can put a price on amazing weather and beautiful scenery: having to pay devs more to get them to live in LA. | null | 0 | 1544444189 | False | 0 | ebhpk34 | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebgkvlm | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhpk34/ | 1547427157 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | TheBestOpinion | t2_94mm1 | Currently doing some Coq as part of my master's degree and I know a bit about TLA+.
I don't think they're the same thing.
With Coq, you'll provide definitions like in TLA+ (what's an 'int' ? what 'plus', what's modulus ?), then define theorems (`x+3 % 3 == x`), and use a set of tools that Coq provides to 'prove' it. (see (['tactics'](https://pjreddie.com/coq-tactics/))
You might get to the point where it tells you "No more subgoals" and you're able to write "Qed.".
Then you'll have formally proven that your theorem is correct.
[From my understanding however TLA+ seems different.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfnldxWlOhM)
There is no 'proof' part. It snoops around the system you defined, explores every possible state, and raises you error messages when it gets to a state it is not supposed to, and tells you how it got there | null | 0 | 1545660562 | 1545667869 | 0 | ecgglh2 | t3_a91l9v | null | null | t1_ecgef73 | /r/programming/comments/a91l9v/my_unusual_hobby/ecgglh2/ | 1548013751 | 11 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | nighthawk1961 | t2_37z13 | > There is also cross platform emulator based on WinUAE called FS-UAE
Yes, there is and it rocks. I run it on Slackware Linux and it is just like having a real Amiga (or as close as I can get without the real iron). | null | 0 | 1544444199 | False | 0 | ebhpkbw | t3_a4uo6y | null | null | t1_ebhmupc | /r/programming/comments/a4uo6y/winuae_410_released_winuae_is_open_source_amiga/ebhpkbw/ | 1547427160 | 5 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | caiocaio | t2_irqj6 | I don't know. People on the internet get really emotionally attached to programming languages. I find it weird, because none of the programmers I've ever known in real life have ever been that emotional about a single language. That's one of the number one internet/irl disparities for me. | null | 0 | 1545660693 | False | 0 | ecggpb4 | t3_a90xot | null | null | t1_ecg5m7c | /r/programming/comments/a90xot/making_a_game_in_turbo_pascal_302/ecggpb4/ | 1548013828 | 8 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | killerstorm | t2_m827 | It would be nice if demo was uploaded in a higher quality. I understand that 1968 recording quality is not good, but there are no reasons to add Youtube 360p blurriness and artifacts to that. | null | 0 | 1544444210 | False | 0 | ebhpkkw | t3_a4nztn | null | null | t3_a4nztn | /r/programming/comments/a4nztn/today_is_the_50th_anniversary_of_doug_engelbarts/ebhpkkw/ | 1547427163 | 6 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | krupzdesai | t2_21g67ffb | Thank you.. :) | null | 0 | 1545660877 | False | 0 | ecgguvf | t3_a93598 | null | null | t1_ecga4ik | /r/programming/comments/a93598/whats_the_difference_between_xmpp_and_websockets/ecgguvf/ | 1548013897 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | againstmethod | t2_6lkgb | We can get french wine and cheese here and we can try both and make our own minds up. That's how we roll in America.
But I get that brainwashing is a common educational method in Europe so I won't try to convince you otherwise. | null | 0 | 1544444213 | False | 0 | ebhpknh | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebhlvqx | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhpknh/ | 1547427164 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | isaaky | t2_3lq2u | When programming was easy , efficient and consistent. No garbage collectors, no async , no framework, and truly native. Bugs now are product of unnecesary complexity. | null | 0 | 1545660879 | False | 0 | ecgguxt | t3_a90xot | null | null | t3_a90xot | /r/programming/comments/a90xot/making_a_game_in_turbo_pascal_302/ecgguxt/ | 1548013898 | 4 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | TemporaryPsychology | t2_2mqpgulv | How's the healthcare if you're laid off? | null | 0 | 1544444423 | False | 0 | ebhpppb | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebgpoop | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhpppb/ | 1547427226 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | krupzdesai | t2_21g67ffb | Thanks.. | null | 0 | 1545660886 | False | 0 | ecggv4i | t3_a93598 | null | null | t1_ecggka7 | /r/programming/comments/a93598/whats_the_difference_between_xmpp_and_websockets/ecggv4i/ | 1548013900 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | didhe | t2_fhv1c | in what universe are vulnerabilities _triggered by user action_, on an OS that's been out of _extended_ support for years, using software that has no business being run in the use-cases that XP has been supported for almost the past _decade_
**critical**
Do the groups of people who still run XP and the people who use git even overlap?? | null | 0 | 1544444424 | False | 0 | ebhppq6 | t3_a4oi4w | null | null | t1_ebh7p5m | /r/programming/comments/a4oi4w/git_v2200_released/ebhppq6/ | 1547427227 | 8 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | webauteur | t2_11nmd | Excellent! I shall query the Oracle to learn the destiny of my company. It is all in the sales projections! | null | 0 | 1545660912 | False | 0 | ecggvy6 | t3_a90xot | null | null | t1_ecgg7wa | /r/programming/comments/a90xot/making_a_game_in_turbo_pascal_302/ecggvy6/ | 1548013910 | 5 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Ettubrutusu | t2_1qi8jd60 | > It's useful to have a platform that will change with you, not force you to change.
That seems like a weak argument for using a mailing list. | null | 1 | 1544444440 | False | 0 | ebhpq5b | t3_a4oi4w | null | null | t1_ebhoxuy | /r/programming/comments/a4oi4w/git_v2200_released/ebhpq5b/ | 1547427232 | -3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | krupzdesai | t2_21g67ffb | Thanks, this will really help!! | null | 0 | 1545660913 | False | 0 | ecggvzb | t3_a93598 | null | null | t1_ecg6h95 | /r/programming/comments/a93598/whats_the_difference_between_xmpp_and_websockets/ecggvzb/ | 1548013910 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | didhe | t2_fhv1c | Look, you do some backporting sometime and then come back with that "you don't have to create anything just" | null | 0 | 1544444477 | False | 0 | ebhpqzd | t3_a4oi4w | null | null | t1_ebhhajc | /r/programming/comments/a4oi4w/git_v2200_released/ebhpqzd/ | 1547427242 | 4 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | caiocaio | t2_irqj6 | It's too bad he didn't call it Alef 2.0. It's a much better name than 'Go' and reminds me of Luis Borges. | null | 0 | 1545661008 | False | 0 | ecggyrt | t3_a90xot | null | null | t1_ecg9akr | /r/programming/comments/a90xot/making_a_game_in_turbo_pascal_302/ecggyrt/ | 1548013944 | 4 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | [deleted] | None | Uhuh. Just like how you get gouda and bread. I’m sure to you it’s *just like the real thing* | null | 0 | 1544444556 | False | 0 | ebhpstt | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebhpknh | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhpstt/ | 1547427265 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | theoldboy | t2_5n3yf | Another one from that era you might be interested in is [DJGPP](http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/). It's a 32-bit protected mode DOS port of GCC, was famously used by ID Software for Quake (instead of Watcom/DOS4GW, which was by far the most popular 32-bit DOS compiler/extender for game development back then).
There's a very Borland-like IDE available (RHIDE), and the Allegro game programming library is quite nice too.
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False | TokenChingy | t2_gryds0o | I agree 100%, but the biggest deciding factor is personalities, to generically and broadly put, it's introverts vs extroverts.
Each to there own, but I feel workplaces should cater towards that as best as possible.
I personally love interaction, it helps me focus as well as keeps me positive. | null | 0 | 1544444568 | False | 0 | ebhpt3h | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebgk53w | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhpt3h/ | 1547427268 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Sqeaky | t2_6wjnx | This argument has already been had here.
I don't see how go will stop someone from writing the wrong code. It won't stop them from calling the wrong function, it won't stop someone calling the wrong SQL stored procedure. It just won't stop them from making the vast majority of mistakes.
Conventional type systems have shown themselves time and time again to catch errors. C++ has a pretty good one. The vast majority of coders in this language will never write template meta programs or complex templates. But coders in every language will have to deal with errors often
That's just not how the language works, when you want to write that function that will do the same simple logical operation on three different types what do you do in go? You write three different functions, and when a new requirement comes down the pipe to change that logic for one of the classes inevitably the other to get forgotten and you've written the bug.
Similar things with error checks, forcing people to check for errors is known to not be good enough. C has been doing it since the dawn of time. When exceptions are involved you can't not catch them. If you're writing a modern language and you don't include basic error planning, then what are you doing?
It's simply too easy to forget checking err != nil. So if you forget this and it gets dropped off somewhere do you wind up with bugs at runtime.
Are you familiar with the software testing pyramid? It is this notion that bugs get more expensive to catch the further from the developer you get. You want to catch bugs right there on the workstation the developer is writing on oh, the cheapest place to catch bugs is the compilation step, on the second cheapest place is the unit tests. It is super easy to miss checking and error variable in both of those steps.
Continuing further out with the software testing pyramid, next is integration tests oh, and go does really good here actually oh, it is super easy to test services made in go. Oh wait, not all code presents web service how the heck are we supposed to test a complex set of modules that work together if we can't swap out mocks for larger components, generics sure would help here.
There's no special story with go on end-to-end testing, but everywhere else is rubbish.
Are good answers in most places for most of the languages because they involve basic things like exceptions, or type systems that force the coder to handle errors. Go has a trifecta of b******* it creates common kinds of errors, it creates code-duplication, and it doesn't provide modern code conveniences to deal with that.
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This also totally ignores the fact that the simplicity go offers is entirely illusory. People arguing that verbose boring code is good sound a lot like the people arguing that distractions like functions were bad because they hid the actual jump statements underneath, and these people wanted to keep gotos forever. Good abstractions formalize common patterns. They're supposed to make things easier to learn, and they often do. | null | 0 | 1545661487 | False | 0 | ecghdg0 | t3_a8rptf | null | null | t1_ecgd4cw | /r/programming/comments/a8rptf/i_do_not_like_go/ecghdg0/ | 1548014126 | 6 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | shevegen | t2_atqp | "Simplifying" Kubernetes with [insert another complex thingy here] | null | 0 | 1544444822 | False | 0 | ebhpzeb | t3_a4urna | null | null | t3_a4urna | /r/programming/comments/a4urna/simplifying_kubernetes_with_docker_compose_and/ebhpzeb/ | 1547427346 | 5 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | jaboja | t2_hlajt | Wait, but why does it matter at all which compiler do you use, if the language is the same? Like if I couldn't just compile the DOS version with TP and Linux one with FPC. | null | 0 | 1545661554 | False | 0 | ecghfmx | t3_a90xot | null | null | t1_ecfmtux | /r/programming/comments/a90xot/making_a_game_in_turbo_pascal_302/ecghfmx/ | 1548014153 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | dzkn | t2_4q64r | I didn't mean to make supply and demand seem simple. Both supply and demand is very hard to measure. How do you measure demand for cocaine? How do we know that supply of coca leaves went down?
Please also keep in mind that the theory of supply and demand requires a competitive marketplace. Cartels usually don't fall into this definition. | null | 0 | 1544444839 | False | 0 | ebhpzt6 | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebhp81p | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhpzt6/ | 1547427351 | 0 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | dacian88 | t2_495ze | > Except now all your clients have to implement the logic for generating a unique ID.
why is this a problem?
> Also, if you create an object without round-tripping to the DB, what are you doing with the object? What happens if something crashes and the object you just created (e.g. a sale transaction) gets lost?
I mean that's not really an argument, what if your process crashes before it calls to the database? | null | 0 | 1545661693 | False | 0 | ecghk0r | t3_a8vpy4 | null | null | t1_ecet0fy | /r/programming/comments/a8vpy4/why_did_we_shift_away_from_databasegenerated_ids/ecghk0r/ | 1548014207 | -3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | andtomato | t2_c9sz8 | all going to Dublin now | null | 0 | 1544444922 | False | 0 | ebhq1t9 | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebhmzt3 | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhq1t9/ | 1547427375 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | recurrency | t2_3e21j6 | We shouldn’t be teaching a language with as many oddities as Javascript (cf.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D5xh0ZIEUOE). I think a language should teach e.g. arrays proper. | null | 0 | 1545661724 | False | 0 | ecghl1a | t3_a90xot | null | null | t1_ecgb2bi | /r/programming/comments/a90xot/making_a_game_in_turbo_pascal_302/ecghl1a/ | 1548014219 | 6 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Metaluim | t2_4tq0g | > Same in most of Europe really.
Well, regarding the wine bit, only in a few countries can you get good wine. | null | 0 | 1544444985 | False | 0 | ebhq3cw | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebgd30z | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhq3cw/ | 1547427394 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | jaboja | t2_hlajt | Are there any free Pascal transpilers for the web? | null | 0 | 1545661775 | False | 0 | ecghmme | t3_a90xot | null | null | t3_a90xot | /r/programming/comments/a90xot/making_a_game_in_turbo_pascal_302/ecghmme/ | 1548014239 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | aishik-10x | t2_rox393u | Slack? | null | 0 | 1544445112 | False | 0 | ebhq6l4 | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebhmmy3 | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhq6l4/ | 1547427434 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | grasianids | t2_8qgyl | I downloaded and I'm playing it. Now I'm trying to re create it with csharp. No, I'm not looking into the source code, I want a challenge. And wow, free pascal in ubuntu used 500mb to compile this game. But hey, it's working! | null | 0 | 1545661814 | False | 0 | ecghntn | t3_a90xot | null | null | t3_a90xot | /r/programming/comments/a90xot/making_a_game_in_turbo_pascal_302/ecghntn/ | 1548014253 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | fuscator | t2_uej6h | I'd like a job there please. I don't speak Italian though. | null | 0 | 1544445145 | False | 0 | ebhq7dq | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebhjg14 | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhq7dq/ | 1547427444 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | eyal0 | t2_32z87 | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_programming_language
I don't get how garbage collected Go gets to be on the list of systems languages together with c c++ rust etc but I guess that is how it's being used. | null | 0 | 1545661843 | False | 0 | ecghoqf | t3_a8rptf | null | null | t1_ecgezk2 | /r/programming/comments/a8rptf/i_do_not_like_go/ecghoqf/ | 1548014265 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | luckyme888 | t2_4z0xnbg | And no encryption on the internet with government potentially snooping with that recent law | null | 0 | 1544445155 | False | 0 | ebhq7mf | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebgo0y2 | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhq7mf/ | 1547427448 | 5 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | jmking | t2_4hu09 | Oh wow, this takes me back. I spent many, many hours making games in Turbo Pascal back in high school with friends. I wish github was a thing back then - it'd be cool to look up that old code. | null | 0 | 1545661847 | False | 0 | ecghovh | t3_a90xot | null | null | t3_a90xot | /r/programming/comments/a90xot/making_a_game_in_turbo_pascal_302/ecghovh/ | 1548014267 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | aurumae | t2_bd5n2 | \> With free or cheap health care and free or cheap university tuition, Europeans don't need as much money as Americans.
The health care and universities aren't free though, you pay for them through your taxes. This will vary depending on the country you live in, but in my location, I pay about 50% tax on earnings over about $40000 and roughly 25% on earnings below that.
Based on the information I could find online, it looks like my US-based colleagues would pay about $5k less in taxes if they earned the same amount I do. When you factor in a 30% pay increase on top of that, they're taking home about 35% more overall.
It's also not true that you don't need to save for retirement. If you save nothing for retirement you will be dirt poor for the last 10-20 years of your life. Many of my coworkers are putting about 10% of their salary into their pension, and building a portfolio of other assets for when they retire.
University costs are the biggest difference, as you won't graduate with a huge debt hanging over you. University isn't entirely free, students or their parents need to pay a few thousand each year in university fees. But that certainly doesn't compare to the tens of thousands per year some US universities charge. | null | 0 | 1544445208 | False | 0 | ebhq8wt | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebhkowh | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhq8wt/ | 1547427463 | 9 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
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False | StillDeletingSpaces | t2_b5kfx | Mailing List vs Slack? It's not really much of a choice if you want control.
Mailing list vs Discourse? That's a different story that depends on the project, but in general: its still harder to include people outside of the mailing list or to have cross-mailing-list collaboration. | null | 0 | 1544445304 | False | 0 | ebhqbeb | t3_a4oi4w | null | null | t1_ebhpq5b | /r/programming/comments/a4oi4w/git_v2200_released/ebhqbeb/ | 1547427493 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Dooraven | t2_5ltk9 | JSON is fine for reading if you have some knowledge of a javascript object. But yeah it's pretty terrible to write. | null | 0 | 1545661925 | False | 0 | ecghre6 | t3_a8rptf | null | null | t1_ecgdwvs | /r/programming/comments/a8rptf/i_do_not_like_go/ecghre6/ | 1548014297 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | tmrindia | t2_2p71m96g | Most comments talk about bay area. What is the salary range in other parts of us like Midwest?? | null | 0 | 1544445386 | False | 0 | ebhqdid | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t3_a4n8jv | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhqdid/ | 1547427520 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | eyal0 | t2_32z87 | Good points. I guess that it replaces python while being the opposite, which is what Google needed. | null | 0 | 1545661965 | False | 0 | ecghsnc | t3_a8rptf | null | null | t1_ecgepnr | /r/programming/comments/a8rptf/i_do_not_like_go/ecghsnc/ | 1548014313 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | [deleted] | None | competitive market place is exactly the issue. there are lots of assumptions in all laws I can think of. sometimes the assumptions are false
that book I mentioned is the data source. I am blindly trusting it and its sources. | null | 0 | 1544445400 | False | 0 | ebhqduw | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebhpzt6 | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhqduw/ | 1547427525 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | mtranda | t2_3e5gm | Maybe they need to perform some specific action on some specific type of files. Or automate some process. Programming doesn't have to be some object oriented enterprise solution. Sometimes a simple script can do the trick. And that is programming, as well. | null | 1 | 1545661993 | False | 0 | ecghtkj | t3_a90xot | null | null | t1_ecgfuqj | /r/programming/comments/a90xot/making_a_game_in_turbo_pascal_302/ecghtkj/ | 1548014325 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | luckyme888 | t2_4z0xnbg | Throw your hands up and make a pfffrt sound with your mouth while shaking your head. | null | 0 | 1544445475 | False | 0 | ebhqfqh | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebhfkz5 | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhqfqh/ | 1547427549 | 18 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | WorldsBegin | t2_ijg9a | For everybody thinking about picking up Coq. I believe Agda has the same benefits but arguably more natural syntax. As a drawback, Agda doesn't yet feature a tactics engine. | null | 0 | 1545662027 | 1545665007 | 0 | ecghuo6 | t3_a91l9v | null | null | t1_ecg4i9o | /r/programming/comments/a91l9v/my_unusual_hobby/ecghuo6/ | 1548014338 | 6 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | dosefour | t2_12pqov | Never change it | null | 0 | 1544445581 | False | 0 | ebhqih5 | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebhfkz5 | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhqih5/ | 1547427612 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | agonnaz | t2_wsa3w | If they're the penultimate, what is the ultimate? | null | 0 | 1545662303 | False | 0 | ecgi3e3 | t3_a8alsv | null | null | t1_ecfy7b5 | /r/programming/comments/a8alsv/abandon_relations_all_ye_who_enter_here_a/ecgi3e3/ | 1548014474 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | alexeyr | t2_37mmv | In what way does current C++ _not_ support this? | null | 0 | 1544445602 | False | 0 | ebhqizw | t3_a0vjqb | null | null | t1_eal8aoj | /r/programming/comments/a0vjqb/lambdas_are_not_functional_programming_john/ebhqizw/ | 1547427618 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | mikelieman | t2_2c4ud | It's like a Yule Log for dorks. | null | 0 | 1545662332 | False | 0 | ecgi4bi | t3_a90xot | null | null | t3_a90xot | /r/programming/comments/a90xot/making_a_game_in_turbo_pascal_302/ecgi4bi/ | 1548014487 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | mikejoro | t2_3pmqw | How many years in the industry do you have, and what kind of product do you work on? | null | 0 | 1544445646 | False | 0 | ebhqk5n | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebhajot | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhqk5n/ | 1547427633 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | ahnunahki | t2_1qb0 | This brings back so many wonderful memories. | null | 0 | 1545662345 | False | 0 | ecgi4pb | t3_a90xot | null | null | t3_a90xot | /r/programming/comments/a90xot/making_a_game_in_turbo_pascal_302/ecgi4pb/ | 1548014491 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | ClimbTheAlpsWithMe | t2_ptrg54f | The sponsoring is not the problem. It's the luck to get a Visa, since it is limited how many they give out every year. | null | 0 | 1544445684 | False | 0 | ebhql7t | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebh2bvp | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhql7t/ | 1547427646 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | mikelieman | t2_2c4ud | Yeah, I did an insurance point-of-sale system in the bastard crossbreed of COBOL and BASIC, "Dataflex"... | null | 0 | 1545662394 | False | 0 | ecgi6a0 | t3_a90xot | null | null | t1_ecg8xyv | /r/programming/comments/a90xot/making_a_game_in_turbo_pascal_302/ecgi6a0/ | 1548014510 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | [deleted] | None | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1544445691 | False | 0 | ebhqlep | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t3_a4n8jv | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhqlep/ | 1547427648 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | yourbasicgeek | t2_ebrwg | I'm glad to give you a happy surprise right in time for the holiday! | null | 0 | 1545662419 | False | 0 | ecgi731 | t3_a90xot | null | null | t1_ecg77ia | /r/programming/comments/a90xot/making_a_game_in_turbo_pascal_302/ecgi731/ | 1548014521 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | bayleo | t2_2owdh | Easier for them to post up in the corner (silicon valley) with a mountain of cash and wait for people to come pay their respects. | null | 0 | 1544445713 | False | 0 | ebhqm0d | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebg0loe | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhqm0d/ | 1547427656 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | mikelieman | t2_2c4ud | One of the hassles of the VA's great EHR system is that the frontend was delphi.
And that things like imaging required licensing FDA approved libraries.. | null | 0 | 1545662450 | False | 0 | ecgi82l | t3_a90xot | null | null | t1_ecfrluk | /r/programming/comments/a90xot/making_a_game_in_turbo_pascal_302/ecgi82l/ | 1548014533 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | sloppycee | t2_agb0t | I've had full time offers at 140k, and contracts at $100/hr in Toronto. | null | 0 | 1544445724 | False | 0 | ebhqm8r | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebhau3e | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhqm8r/ | 1547427658 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | skroll | t2_46m0f | Yeah, my father got me a book on BASIC for the C64 when I was a kid and it definitely got me interested in computer science. Although, he was actively pushing me into computer-related fields since I was a kid, since he thought it was going to be a much bigger thing. When he was a kid he got interested in the Altair 8800, and his father told him to quit screwing around with "those things because they'll never make you any money." He went on to get on the ground floor of IT for a very large government contractor, so he thought it was in my best interest to get me going that direction as well.
​
It worked out for me. Thanks, BASIC. | null | 0 | 1545662487 | False | 0 | ecgi98f | t3_a90xot | null | null | t1_ecg271i | /r/programming/comments/a90xot/making_a_game_in_turbo_pascal_302/ecgi98f/ | 1548014547 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | ClimbTheAlpsWithMe | t2_ptrg54f | I always tell people. If money is priority 1, go to the US. For most people money is not priority 1 after a certain amount. So not always worth it to go to the US. | null | 0 | 1544445745 | False | 0 | ebhqmt6 | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebhi5yx | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhqmt6/ | 1547427665 | 19 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | mikelieman | t2_2c4ud | You are a sick, sick person.
And I envy you. | null | 0 | 1545662523 | False | 0 | ecgiabp | t3_a90xot | null | null | t1_ecg7lfa | /r/programming/comments/a90xot/making_a_game_in_turbo_pascal_302/ecgiabp/ | 1548014560 | 5 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | 2bdb2 | t2_2u3fjz6 | > Quite possibly just C - there's no rule that says you can't have less than two properties.
So if I don't have partition tolerance, I don't ever have A?
>More likely you don't. The Postgresql manual's description of serializable isolation level is explicit that serializable is like repeatable read with additional overhead:
Keep reading - there are significant differences
> To guarantee true serializability PostgreSQL uses predicate locking, which means that it keeps locks which allow it to determine when a write would have had an impact on the result of a previous read from a concurrent transaction, had it run first. In PostgreSQL these locks do not cause any blocking and therefore can not play any part in causing a deadlock. They are used to identify and flag dependencies among concurrent Serializable transactions which in certain combinations can lead to serialization anomalies. *In contrast, a Read Committed or Repeatable Read transaction which wants to ensure data consistency may need to take out a lock on an entire table, which could block other users attempting to use that table, or it may use SELECT FOR UPDATE or SELECT FOR SHARE which not only can block other transactions but cause disk access.*
| null | 0 | 1544445787 | 1544446304 | 0 | ebhqnxj | t3_a3dobm | null | null | t1_ebhos4f | /r/programming/comments/a3dobm/at_22_years_old_postgres_might_just_be_the_most/ebhqnxj/ | 1547427680 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Hyta | t2_5vq2m | There is only a limited number of times you can write "begin" and "end" in your lifetime. I remember being so happy when I discovered these { } in C. | null | 1 | 1545662573 | False | 0 | ecgibxh | t3_a90xot | null | null | t1_ecg5m7c | /r/programming/comments/a90xot/making_a_game_in_turbo_pascal_302/ecgibxh/ | 1548014581 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | briankauf | t2_59byv | You're not wrong. There are a few exceptions in places like Madison, wi and the like, but as a percentage the count of those jobs is much lower than the coasts. Incidentally, come to Madison, we need more programmers!
:-) | null | 0 | 1544445824 | False | 0 | ebhqowi | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebg06rv | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhqowi/ | 1547427691 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | neuk_mijn_oogkas | t2_2032avqr | Verbosity is Go's game it seems.
I remember talking to a Go programmer who implemented a Go function in at least 200 lines of Code re-implementing very common logic we call fold, find, etc.
I showed how it can be done in no more than three lines of idiomatic rust using your basic `.fold().position().unwrap_or_else()...` type of logic
The Go programmer thought the 200 lines of Go was superior because at least you can understand and no one can understand what this whole fold, map etc business is. | null | 0 | 1545662780 | False | 0 | ecgiijh | t3_a8rptf | null | null | t1_ecdz82v | /r/programming/comments/a8rptf/i_do_not_like_go/ecgiijh/ | 1548014661 | 11 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | mdatwood | t2_h5qqe | Look at the history of git itself:
https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Getting-Started-A-Short-History-of-Git | null | 0 | 1544445834 | False | 0 | ebhqp5z | t3_a4oi4w | null | null | t1_ebhp4bq | /r/programming/comments/a4oi4w/git_v2200_released/ebhqp5z/ | 1547427695 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | lPFreeIy | t2_9rai1 | Hell yeah, Pascal
I was in the last class in my high school to be taught Pascal | null | 0 | 1545662812 | False | 0 | ecgijji | t3_a90xot | null | null | t3_a90xot | /r/programming/comments/a90xot/making_a_game_in_turbo_pascal_302/ecgijji/ | 1548014674 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | StillDeletingSpaces | t2_b5kfx | > `On a side note, it seems that doing this will not even compromise key-based authentication, only passwords - after all, in key-based authentication, the server never gets to see the key`
There's still an issue here-- because many users only type the passphrase when ssh asks for it. I've tried in vain to enforce _NEVER_ typing in a password with `ssh`, only with `ssh-agent` and `ssh-add` but many still just type the passphrase every time.
It wouldn't take much for an attacker's server to display this when detecting an ssh-key, many would probably still type their passphrase:
Enter passphrase for key '/home/username/.ssh/id_rsa':
No, it doesn't _break_ the key, but it still gets the attacker information they shouldn't have. | null | 0 | 1544445933 | 1544468150 | 0 | ebhqrtf | t3_a4tznm | null | null | t1_ebhkifk | /r/programming/comments/a4tznm/eset_discovers_21_new_linux_malware_families_all/ebhqrtf/ | 1547427727 | 10 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | MadRedHatter | t2_skbl1 | > In languages like Rust, you cannot access the result unless you explicitly handle the error case.
Well, you *could*, but of course the most idiomatic ways do require you to do that. | null | 0 | 1545662840 | False | 0 | ecgike7 | t3_a8rptf | null | null | t1_ecfh7na | /r/programming/comments/a8rptf/i_do_not_like_go/ecgike7/ | 1548014684 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | gnuvince | t2_1s0v | A modern day's [Wirth's Law](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirth%27s_law)?
> Websites are getting slower more rapidly than the Internet becomes faster. | null | 0 | 1544445961 | False | 0 | ebhqsiq | t3_a4llot | null | null | t1_ebgklyv | /r/programming/comments/a4llot/faster_than_amp/ebhqsiq/ | 1547427735 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | luminoumen | t2_xf2t5 | >Who can, he does, who can not, he criticizes
​ | null | 0 | 1545663064 | False | 0 | ecgirtw | t3_a94nbm | null | null | t1_ecgfq71 | /r/programming/comments/a94nbm/how_to_estimate_time_for_a_projecttask_accurately/ecgirtw/ | 1548014777 | -13 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | emperorOfTheUniverse | t2_7jpvl | Replacing it, clearly.
My point is you aren't stuck with anything if you have a robust team that does cicd. | null | 0 | 1544445975 | False | 0 | ebhqsvp | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebhfkz5 | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhqsvp/ | 1547427740 | 0 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | wikwikwik | t2_2rjyrp4o | A 2d matrix should probably be implemented as a single dimensional array, and compute the index yourself (it does depend on your compiler/jit etc and how you select elements - if there's a pattern to your random access). As I said, I know my low-level stuff.
I still don't think it matters for most JS applications or programmers. If it does, the questions are "(1) Why are you doing in it in JS?" and "(2) Why are you optimising before you run a profiler across your whole code?"
edit: I spoke to a friend who says I've explained it badly. Basically, this is an example of premature optimisation based on a micro-benchmark. Chances are that your program is not slow because you are zeroing an array. Once you profile the program (the real code) your micro-benchmark is probably no longer valid. You should always start with a full profile before you do anything, unless an issue is algorithmic on a large data set, in which case the problem is design and not implementation. | null | 0 | 1545663094 | 1545664871 | 0 | ecgisv4 | t3_a8kwg9 | null | null | t1_ecg2szi | /r/programming/comments/a8kwg9/what_every_programmer_should_know_about_memory/ecgisv4/ | 1548014789 | 0 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | HellooooooSamarjeet | t2_w9t1bb8 | Companies that offer $150k USD salaries also offer very good health insurance plans, which the company will mostly pay for.
So the difference isn't as extreme as comparing typical US health insurance costs versus UK. | null | 0 | 1544446007 | False | 0 | ebhqtnw | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebhklzb | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhqtnw/ | 1547427750 | 44 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | neuk_mijn_oogkas | t2_2032avqr | The difference is that the type system in Rust works differently; there are sum types and Result is one of them.
You cannot actually _obtain_ the Ok value on a type level if it's not there.
In Go the "Ok" value is always there; if an error occured it often just contains garbage and an unspecified value but as far as the type system is concerned it's a valid member of the type; so forgetting to handle it can lead to you using this value.
In Rust that is impossible; if you're not going to handle it at all you _cannot_ continue the code path if an error occurs and thus the only other solution is to either skip the entire thing that needs it or crash the entire program; you cannot just create an unspecified nonsense value of that type from the aether; it's not there. | null | 0 | 1545663206 | False | 0 | ecgiwju | t3_a8rptf | null | null | t1_eceiwo8 | /r/programming/comments/a8rptf/i_do_not_like_go/ecgiwju/ | 1548014835 | 4 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | MyPenisIsaWMD | t2_nfgkd | > The health care and universities aren't free though, you pay for them through your taxes.
It still does not really even out. I've worked a similar job in the USA and Canada and while, yes, I was paid more in the USA, my overall quality of life was FAR better in Canada and the amount I paid in taxes was similar. All the little things add up. The need for a car. Rent. Daycare. Education. Healthcare (insurance AND copays). Other types of insurance. Hell, the cost of buying *lunch* in a high cost area. Etc. etc. etc. Wealthy American cities are just *expensive* to live in.
I'd estimate that I'd need 3x more salary to live the same quality of life in Boston as I could in Montreal. | null | 0 | 1544446065 | False | 0 | ebhqv6x | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebhq8wt | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhqv6x/ | 1547427769 | 8 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | TheGoodOldCoder | t2_fsmu9h3 | https://youtu.be/k9VewWKfH_0 | null | 0 | 1545663346 | False | 0 | ecgj1hl | t3_a91l9v | null | null | t1_ecg7qrw | /r/programming/comments/a91l9v/my_unusual_hobby/ecgj1hl/ | 1548014895 | 4 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | kefaise | t2_xujc5 | That's so true. I have two friends who worked for two different companies. Both couldn't get raise, even when they asked for it. They got standard excuses that company can't afford it, etc. They decided to leave their companies. It turned out, they swapped each other with 20% pay rise. | null | 0 | 1544446124 | False | 0 | ebhqwoj | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebgfu6t | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhqwoj/ | 1547427787 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | zzzk | t2_a8b63 | Nice | null | 0 | 1545663367 | False | 0 | ecgj2a8 | t3_a95jxj | null | null | t3_a95jxj | /r/programming/comments/a95jxj/the_420_kernel_has_been_released/ecgj2a8/ | 1548014905 | 440 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | [deleted] | None | I don't know if it's really possible to keeping up with the bugs you'd find | null | 0 | 1544446139 | False | 0 | ebhqx2p | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebhqsvp | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhqx2p/ | 1547427791 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | ionforge | t2_hecyx | With modern tools it is a better use of time to spin up a real database in docker and do a integration test. This will be more close to a real world scenario than a in memory DB that will never see the light of production. | null | 0 | 1545663369 | False | 0 | ecgj2bz | t3_a8zgcm | null | null | t1_ecg361l | /r/programming/comments/a8zgcm/the_myth_of_100_code_coverage/ecgj2bz/ | 1548014906 | 5 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | [deleted] | None | ah how could I have forgotten | null | 0 | 1544446166 | False | 0 | ebhqxsy | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebhqfqh | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhqxsy/ | 1547427801 | 6 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Tyuiop71 | t2_4wae923 | The majority of computer users will never need to touch a computer programming language, haven't needed too since the 90s, and never will in the future. Sorry to ruin your fantasy | null | 0 | 1545663438 | False | 0 | ecgj4r6 | t3_a90xot | null | null | t1_ecghtkj | /r/programming/comments/a90xot/making_a_game_in_turbo_pascal_302/ecgj4r6/ | 1548014935 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Sampo | t2_1tvs | > Most European countries
Ok, name some? | null | 0 | 1544446196 | False | 0 | ebhqykg | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebhoo4f | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhqykg/ | 1547427811 | 5 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | DeliciousIncident | t2_1uadtvaf | While Delphi is still somewhat common in Eastern Europe and [CIS countries](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Independent_States#Member_states) specifically, barely anyone uses it to develop new software in countries outside of those. You will be hard pressed to find any Delphi developer in United States or Australia, for example.
It's a good thing that you are able to make good money off of it, but who knows how long there will be a demand for Delphi developers. For your own job security, I would strongly suggest to investing your free time into learning 1) Qt5 and C++17 and 2) Qt Quick and QML, which can also be used for rapid GUI development, are cross-platform, widely used, have great tooling, etc.
| null | 0 | 1545663462 | False | 0 | ecgj5mk | t3_a90xot | null | null | t1_ecg9qyd | /r/programming/comments/a90xot/making_a_game_in_turbo_pascal_302/ecgj5mk/ | 1548014947 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | luckyme888 | t2_4z0xnbg | > One of them sent us an interior decorator.
Yeah unless you want to kill 16 czechoslovakians, that is pretty useless. | null | 0 | 1544446240 | False | 0 | ebhqzs3 | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebgd9ir | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhqzs3/ | 1547427825 | 1 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | [deleted] | None | ok so blaze it in your silicon. | null | 1 | 1545663545 | False | 0 | ecgj8ip | t3_a95jxj | null | null | t3_a95jxj | /r/programming/comments/a95jxj/the_420_kernel_has_been_released/ecgj8ip/ | 1548015011 | 9 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | KrautCat | t2_172gua | Let's say: a bit experience, a bit sacarsm.
It's easy to end in the pitfall were optimizing bad code is more expensive than just throwing money on it and hope the problem disappears someday because of..reasons.
Often bad code was not always bad, but just grew that way, because of new features, fixed bugs, changed dependancies or just to many coders putting their dirty keyboards on it in a company where manpower is seen as a rareressources which must entirley focus on stuff that makes money and can't be wasted on doing the boring things like documentation, testing or optimizing stuff (which has BTW the chance to break things, so should be avoided anyway).
At the end you have some wild mesh of undocumentated interconnected code-parts which makes 98% of your income and untangleing the mess would take 5-10 years and 50 Star Fleet-engineers, while the simple solution would be: throw some money on it and start digging for the next goldmine. | null | 0 | 1544446241 | False | 0 | ebhqztk | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebhp6ll | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhqztk/ | 1547427826 | 5 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | existentialwalri | t2_qzhaeug | my biggest fear is in java land we haven't really touched the tip of people coming into all these changes because so many people still in 1.8 land | null | 0 | 1545663646 | False | 0 | ecgjbwd | t3_a956qz | null | null | t3_a956qz | /r/programming/comments/a956qz/java_language_architect_brian_goetz_on_java_and/ecgjbwd/ | 1548015053 | 45 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | saadmrb | t2_d61rfba | TL;DW anyone ? | null | 0 | 1544446268 | False | 0 | ebhr0ku | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t3_a4n8jv | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhr0ku/ | 1547427835 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | GlitchUser | t2_n72zb | Thank you for the wave of nostalgia.
TP Mafia represent. No talking while compiling is in progress. 👨💻🔫 | null | 0 | 1545663800 | False | 0 | ecgjh54 | t3_a90xot | null | null | t3_a90xot | /r/programming/comments/a90xot/making_a_game_in_turbo_pascal_302/ecgjh54/ | 1548015118 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | Travro | t2_lc2yo | I'm a paramedic moving into software development. Really excited to see part two. | null | 0 | 1544446325 | False | 0 | ebhr24r | t3_a4si3k | null | null | t3_a4si3k | /r/programming/comments/a4si3k/decomposing_an_ekg_monitor_into_bytesized/ebhr24r/ | 1547427854 | 3 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | neuk_mijn_oogkas | t2_2032avqr | In some cases; in some cases the program should crash.
In Rust `expect` and `unwrap` are only to be used when the programmer _asserts_ that they know the result in this case will never fail; this is possible because they eliminated the conditions in which it might fail.
It should crash spectacularly if they are wrong because they means a bug exits.
In Rust every panic is an error; panic is different from throwing an exception and in theory no program should ever panic; panicking programs indicate that some programmer somewhere made a mistake.
Basically it is a programming mistake in Rust to call unwrap or expect on a result that is not Ok; sometimes it just happens that you know the result will always be Ok even though the type system can't prove it so then it's correct.
You should never call it except in prototyping on functions which may fail due to environmental conditions.
But this is I agree one of the problems with Rust's mechanism. There are three fundamentally different things that are often grouped together:
- errors
- exceptions
- logic states
A lot of languages group them together in the same mechanism (Hello, Python) Rust correctly puts errors into `panic` but that's it; it bundles logic states and exceptions together into `Result` and `Option` this I feel is wrong.
There is a fundamental difference between an exceptional state which is external to the program; something the programmer can _never_ know of with certainty that it won't happen: internet can always be down; the drive can always suddenly be full; fork can always fail; there is no way to eliminate that possibility before you try so these are exceptional states. Logic states can be prevented and accounted for; you can be 100% certain as a programmer that an indexing operation will never be out of bounds or 100% certain that there wil be no overflow in integer addition.
As such it si appropriate at times to use except or unwrap on logic states; it is _never_ appropriate in actual production code to use them on exceptional states so I feel there should be different types for both.
Apart from that exceptional states are generally required to bubble in practice; logic states are not. It's possible that you need to bubble a logic state but this is more a coincidence than a pattern.
So yeah, stil stuff to be desired I feel.
Edit: reading the codebase on unwrap and expect an interesting tidbit is that a very simple function is coded in a very strange and convoluted way to opmize it with an #[inline(never)] directive; why? to reduce code size at the expensive of performance because performance does not matter as in theory the error branch of this function should _never_ be called so they went through quite some hoops to ensure the code size is as small as possible sacrificing performance. | null | 0 | 1545663890 | 1545666301 | 0 | ecgjkf8 | t3_a8rptf | null | null | t1_eceejuu | /r/programming/comments/a8rptf/i_do_not_like_go/ecgjkf8/ | 1548015160 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | cbzoiav | t2_gs7o9 | Gets more complicated. In the UK they also pay for private health cover which tends to get you faster / more convenient access to consultants, private rooms in hospitals etc.
Which is also a taxable benefit so most devs will pay 40%+ of the cost in tax. | null | 0 | 1544446377 | False | 0 | ebhr3k6 | t3_a4n8jv | null | null | t1_ebhqtnw | /r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebhr3k6/ | 1547427871 | 10 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
False | RalfN | t2_31gcu | You are not wrong. We are both using the same term with a different definition (where your definition seems to be backed up by Wikipedia).
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For kernel and drivers a run-time is a big no no (which indeed excludes a garbage collector, amoung other things). Whereas i referred to a systems language when it is used for long running (always on), high throughput concurrent systems with predicatable latency charactistics, like a webserver, database or something like a web crawler.
\- can i use proper datastructures and have some control on the memory layout (and therefor cache) patterns (this does not exclude garbage collectors, but it does exclude all frankenarrayhashmap style languages like JS, Ruby, PHP, Python, etc.)
\- is the baseline performance in the same log(n) range as hand written machine code? (this excludes Python, Ruby, etc. because print "2 + 4 = ${2 + 4}" is literally an order of a magnitude slower, but NodeJS, Go, Java, C#, etc. are still playing)
\- is algorithmic complexity of your code predictable based on the language definition (this excludes things like Haskell and NodeJS which can be extremely fast, but that might differ between runs and different versions and implementations of the language)
\- can it be used for long-running processes? (this excludes any GC language where the GC doesn't also compact, i.e. defrag, such as Python, Ruby, Crystal, etc.)
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Not many people need to write kernels or device drivers, but in between that space and a script that generates an HTML page on the fly, are things like databases, message que systems, render engines, etc. where you can use a language like Java or Go, but not NodeJS or Python. And it's not just about baseline performance (since NodeJS would actually be fast enough), it's about _controlling_ latency and memory usage. | null | 0 | 1545663901 | False | 0 | ecgjkt6 | t3_a8rptf | null | null | t1_ecghoqf | /r/programming/comments/a8rptf/i_do_not_like_go/ecgjkt6/ | 1548015165 | 2 | t5_2fwo | r/programming | public | null |
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