Subject: [ILUG-Social] urgent assistance

ATTN:

I am Edward Mulete JR. the son of Mr.

STEVE MBEKI MULETE from Zimbabwe. I am sorry this mail
Will surprise you, though we do not know, my mother Mrs. Clara
Got your contact through her private search.
Due to the current war against white farmers in
Zimbabwe and the support of President Robert Mugabe to
Claim all white owned farms in our country to gain
Favor for re-election.

All white farmers were asked to
Surrender their farms to the government for
Re-distribution and infact to his political party
Members and my father though black was the treasury
of the farmers association and a strong member of an
Opposition party that did not support the president
Idea. He then ordered his party members and the police
Under his pay row to invade my father's farm and burn
Down everything in the farm. They killed my
Father and took away a lot of items from his farm.
After the death of my father, our local pastor and a
Close friend of my father handed us over will
Documents with instructions from my father that we
Should leave Zimbabwe incase anything happen to him. The will
Documents has a certificate of deposit, confirming a deposit
Kept in custody for us in a security company unknown
To the company that the content is money hence it was deposited as
Personal belongings and ensure that we do not remain here as we could
Easily be found by his enemies. The total amount is
US$21.5M.We are therefore soliciting for
Your assistance to help us move the fund out of
Zimbabwe, as our fate and future is far from
reality, hence this mail to you. The president's present ban of
International Press into Zimbabwe and the drop from office of the
Finance Minister to avoid giving white farmers fund Transfer
Clearance above US$1M is just a few of the
Unthinkable things he is committing in my Country.
I have tried to reach my father's close friend Mr.
John Casahans from Australia also a farmer who was
Leaving in Zimbabwe with us but left with his family
Late last year following this ugly development to no
Avail.
Should you be interested to help us, contact me
Immediately via email for easy communication and I
Will furnish you with the time frame and modalities of
the transaction. We have concluded a wonderful plan of
Caring out the transfer within two weeks. Please note that
This transaction is100% confidential and risk free and will
Not endanger you or us in any way. We have resolved to give you 20%
Of the total sum upon confirmation of the fund in any
Account of your choice were the incident of taxation
will not take much tool on the money and we look
Forward to coming over to your country to invest our
Share and settle there. I will a private
Phone so that our conversation can be
100% confidential.

Please do not use the reply button, reply only to

Edmulete7@netscape.net Please take note.

God bless you indeed as you help yourself and us.

Mr. EDWARD MULETE

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Subject: Re: f-rpm] Python 2.2 site libs?

On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Mark Derricutt wrote:

> Anyone know why Red Hat insist on sticking with python 1.5.2?

ehhh? IANAHNBARHE -- RHL 8.0 is fully python-2, with a back
compatability v 1 shim set. This has been working and freely
available in their Raw Hide for 5 months for early adopters
and back-porters.

Red Hat maintains binary compatability across major releases.
Its server management tools are heavily Python, and becoming
more so.

To have added mid-stream the python-2 series in the RHL 7.x
series would have been quite disruptive to an existing
installed base.

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Subject: Lest anyone doubt that Brent has a good heart. "I laughed, because here's t

URL: http://scriptingnews.userland.com/backissues/2002/09/24#When:9:13:33AM
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:13:33 GMT

Lest anyone doubt that Brent[1] has a good heart. "I laughed, because here's
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than NetNewsWire is the most-used aggregator."

[1] http://inessential.com/2002/09/21.php


Subject: Kanu at the double

URL: http://www.newsisfree.com/click/-0,8357898,215/
Date: 2002-09-29T00:39:56+01:00

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Subject: Turning junk computers into activist gold

URL: http://boingboing.net/#85481566
Date: Not supplied

Great article on a group of East Bay activists who rehab junk computers, using
semi-skilled volunteers who train other semi-skilled volunteers. The resulting
computers are sent to the developing world for activist use.

 For the Amazonian villages where there's no electricity or where phone
 lines are scarce, the activists plan to set up free computer labs in the
 nearby cities. Many cities already have commercial Internet cafes, but they
 cost about a dollar per hour of use, Henshaw-Plath says, which is about a
 day's wage for most of the population.

 The IMC activists plan to ship off these computers to Guayaquil, Ecuador's
 main port city, by the end of September. Because none of the computers are
 being sold in Ecuador, and because they're being transferred from an
 American nonprofit to an Ecuadorian one, the activists won't be charged any
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Subject: [Spambayes] Current histograms

>>> Tim Peters wrote
> We've not only reduced the f-p and f-n rates in my test runs, we've also
> made the score distributions substantially sharper. This is bad news for
> Greg, because the non-existent "middle ground" is becoming even less
> existent <wink>:

Well, I've finally got around to pulling down the SF code. Starting
with it, and absolutely zero local modifications, I see the following:

Ham distribution for all runs:
* = 589 items
 0.00 35292 ************************************************************
 2.50 36 *
 5.00 21 *
 7.50 12 *
 10.00 6 *
 12.50 9 *
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 17.50 3 *
 20.00 8 *
 22.50 5 *
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 27.50 18 *
 30.00 9 *
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 37.50 3 *
 40.00 0
 42.50 3 *
 45.00 3 *
 47.50 4 *
 50.00 9 *
 52.50 5 *
 55.00 5 *
 57.50 3 *
 60.00 4 *
 62.50 2 *
 65.00 2 *
 67.50 6 *
 70.00 1 *
 72.50 3 *
 75.00 2 *
 77.50 4 *
 80.00 3 *
 82.50 3 *
 85.00 6 *
 87.50 8 *
 90.00 4 *
 92.50 8 *
 95.00 15 *
 97.50 441 *

Spam distribution for all runs:
* = 504 items
 0.00 393 *
 2.50 17 *
 5.00 18 *
 7.50 12 *
 10.00 4 *
 12.50 6 *
 15.00 11 *
 17.50 10 *
 20.00 10 *
 22.50 5 *
 25.00 3 *
 27.50 19 *
 30.00 8 *
 32.50 2 *
 35.00 0
 37.50 1 *
 40.00 5 *
 42.50 5 *
 45.00 7 *
 47.50 2 *
 50.00 5 *
 52.50 1 *
 55.00 9 *
 57.50 11 *
 60.00 6 *
 62.50 4 *
 65.00 3 *
 67.50 5 *
 70.00 7 *
 72.50 9 *
 75.00 2 *
 77.50 13 *
 80.00 3 *
 82.50 7 *
 85.00 15 *
 87.50 16 *
 90.00 11 *
 92.50 16 *
 95.00 45 *
 97.50 30226 ************************************************************

My next (current) task is to complete the corpus I've got - it's currently
got ~ 9000 ham, 7800 spam, and about 9200 currently unsorted. I'm tossing
up using either hammie or spamassassin to do the initial sort - previously
I've used various forms of 'grep' for keywords and a little gui thing to
pop a message up and let me say 'spam/ham', but that's just getting too, too
tedious.

I can't make it available en masse, but I will look at finding some of
the more 'interesting' uglies. One thing I've seen (consider this
'anecdotal' for now) is that the 'skip' tokens end up in a _lot_ of the
f-ps.

Anthony


Subject: Re: Gecko adhesion finally sussed.

Jim Whitehead wrote:

>Great, this is half of what I'd need to become Spider Man! Now all I need to
>figure out is how to do that spider web shooting thing.
>

Heheheh... So becomming a university professor was your second career
choice? ;-)

Seriously though (or not, as the case may be), The Amazing Spiderman had
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were in their street clothes. Perhaps the spidey senses are the result
of some sort of quantum entanglement?

Elias


Subject: Re: http://apt.nixia.no/

Peter Peltonen wrote:
> Sorry about that :)
>
> Didn't think before sending... So I didn't realize that Reply-To was to
> the list and not to the sender (as it usually is).

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Subject: [Spambayes] Ditching WordInfo

> > Maybe. I batch messages using fetchmail (don't ask why), and adding
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> > real wait to me...
>
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>
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>
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We could have a server mode (someone described this as an SA option).

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Subject: Re: Slaughter in the Name of God

On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 12:50, Justin Mason wrote:
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Subject: Re: Optical analog computing?

--- begin forwarded text

Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 01:30:24 -0400
From: "John S. Denker" <jsd@monmouth.com>
Subject: Re: Optical analog computing?
Sender: jsd@no.domain.spam
To: "R. A. Hettinga" <rah@shipwright.com>
Cc: Digital Bearer Settlement List <dbs@philodox.com>,
 cryptography@wasabisystems.com

"R. A. Hettinga" wrote:
...
> "the first computer to crack enigma was optical"
> "the first synthetic-aperture-radar processor was optical"
> "but all these early successes were classified -- 100 to 200 projects,
> and I probably know of less than half."
>
> --> Do these claims compute?! is this really a secret history, or does
> this mean holography, of am I just completely out of the loop?1

Gimme a break. This is remarkable for its lack of
newsworthiness.

1) Bletchley Park used optical sensors, which were (and
still are) the best way to read paper tape at high speed.
You can read about it in the standard accounts, e.g.
 http://www.picotech.com/applications/colossus.html

2) For decades before that, codebreakers were using optical
computing in the form of superposed masks to find patterns.
You can read about it in Kahn.

3) People have been doing opto-electronic computing for
decades. There's a lot more to it than just holography.
I get 14,000 hits from
 http://www.google.com/search?q=optical-computing

> Optical info is a complex-valued wave (spatial frequency, amplitude and
> phase)

It isn't right to make it sound like three numbers (frequency,
amplitude, and phase); actually there are innumerable
frequencies, each of which has its own amplitude and phase.

> lenses, refractions, and interference are the computational operators.
> (add, copy, multiply, fft, correlation, convolution) of 1D and 2D arrays
>
> and, of course, massively parallel by default.
>
> and, of course, allows free-space interconnects.

Some things that are hard with wires are easy with
light-waves. But most things that are easy with wires
are hard with light-waves.

> Here's a commercialized effort from israel: a "space integrating
> vector-matric multiplier" [ A ] B = [ C ]
> laser-> 512-gate modulator -> spread over 2D
> "256 Teraflop equivalent" for one multiply per nanosecond.

People were doing smaller versions of that in
the 1980s.

> Unclassified example: acousto-optic spectrometer, 500 Gflops equivalent
> (for 12 watts!) doing continuous FFTs. Launched in 1998 on a 2-year
> mission. Submillimeter wave observatory.

Not "FFTs". FTs. Fourier Transforms. All you need for
taking a D=2 Fourier Transform is a lens. It's undergrad
physics-lab stuff. I get 6,000 hits from:
 http://www.google.com/search?q=fourier-optics

> Of course, the rest of the talk is about the promise of moving from
> optoelectronic to all-optical processors (on all-optical nets & with
> optical encryption, & so on).

All optical??? No optoelectronics anywhere???
That's medicinal-grade pure snake oil, USP.

Photons are well known for not interacting with
each other. It's hard to do computing without
interactions.

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Subject: RE: use of base image / delta image for automated recovery from a ttacks

I did something crudely along those lines for VMS VAX maybe 13 years
ago; there is at least one product that does it for PC though I don't
recall its name. It is also handy for cases where you have a CD image
of some filesystem (or some other image of a filesystem) that is
intrinsically readonly but whose filesystem will not accept (or is
not graceful) readonly storage. It is also more or less necessary
if you want to work with WORM file structures, which are older still.
There have been a number of filesystems for those dating back to the
early 1980s if not before.

A generic facility of the type you mention is also one way to implement
snapshots on top of an existing filesystem. The written information
must (obviously!) be seekable so you can provide the illusion that you
wrote to the storage. A device level implementation is however perfectly
adequate.

It does not, of course, distinguish for you what should have been changed
and what should not. If you truly know a device (or perhaps a partition)
must not be written, it can be simpler to either return error on writes,
or to just return a fake success on writes yet discard the data. (NTFS
lives with the latter strategy just fine from my experiments. I have not
tried it on extf3 or reiser.)

BTW, think about your mention of RAID and consider the complexity of
writing to RAID4 or RAID5...
I would contend that with cheaper storage these days, it makes little sense
to use RAID, save for shadowing and possibly striping. Those at least do
not have the complexity and slowup dangers that higher RAID levels have, and
there is not a need to save the cost of disk so much where a single disk
may hold 200 gigs and up. Why not dedicate another whole disk to fault
recovery
and lose the complexity and slow write (sometimes) of RAID?

Glenn Everhart

-----Original Message-----
From: bmord@icon-nicholson.com [mailto:bmord@icon-nicholson.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 3:04 PM
To: Webappsec Securityfocus.Com; SECPROG Securityfocus
Subject: use of base image / delta image for automated recovery from
attacks

Hi,

I was inspired by a mode of operation supported by VMWare. You can have a
base disk image shared by multiple virtual machine (vm) instances. That base
image is never altered by a vm instance. Instead, each vm instance writes
changes to its own "redo" log. Future hard disk reads from that vm instance
incorporate both the base image and the appropriate redo log to present the
current disk image for that specific virtual machine.

This is described here (thanks to Duane for providing this link on the
honeypots mailing list)
http://www.vmware.com/support/reference/common/disk_sharing.html

Could this basic concept be used to easily make self-fixing client/server
applications that efficiently and automatically recover from most attacks,
even before those attacks have been discovered? Here is what I imagine.

The physical architectures of most production client/server systems are
layered. For example, your basic web application might have a web server
running Apache, connected to an application server running some J2EE or .Net
business logic, connected to a database server for persistence. The only one
of these whose disk image really should evolve over time is the database
server, and even here you often put the static RDBMS software on one
partition and the changeable datafiles on another partition. It is only the
partition with the volatile datafiles that must be allowed to change from
one boot to the next. Other paritions may need to be writable for, say, swap
space, but these changes could be eliminated on each reboot.

When someone cracks this system, they will probably change an image that
shouldn't be changed. E.g., they might leverage a buffer overflow in IIS or
Apache to install a trojan or a backdoor on the more exposed web server. But
what if the web server ran off a base image, writing changes to a "delta" or
"redo" partition? And then what if every night it automatically erased the
redo partition and rebooted? The downtime involved for each machine would be
minimal, because it is only deleting data - rather than restoring from
backup. In a system with redundant web servers for load balancing or high
availability, this could be scheduled in a way such that the system is
always accessible. This base/redo partition concept could be implemented at
the same level as a feature of hardware RAID, allowing for greater
performance, reliability, and hack resistance. This concept could also be
applied to the application servers, and even the database server partitions
(except for those partitions which contain the table data files, of course.)

Does anyone do this already? Or is this a new concept? Or has this concept
been discussed before and abandoned for some reasons that I don't yet know?
I use the physical architecture of a basic web application as an example in
this post, but this concept could of course be applied to most server
systems. It would allow for the hardware-separation of volatile and
non-volatile disk images. It would be analogous to performing nightly
ghosting operations, only it would be more efficient and involve less (or
no) downtime.

Thanks for any opinions,
Ben

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Subject: Public domain superheroes reborn in Tom Strong

URL: http://boingboing.net/#85490211
Date: Not supplied

Great piece on the pulp comic characters that appear in the new series of Alan
Moore's _League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Tom Strong_ (thanks, Zed) funnybook.
These characters, like The Terror and The Fighting Yank, are in the public
domain because their original publishers didn't register (or renew, it's
unclear) their copyright, which means that they've been granted a new lease on
life in _Tom Strong_. The article segues into a very good discussion of the
public domain. This was just Slashdotted, so it might be a little slow, but
it's worth the wait. Link[1] Discuss[2] (_via /.[3]_)

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Subject: Blatantly stolen from a friend's LJ

Hello Fork,

 http://www.pimprig.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=72&page=2

 This kid has -way- WAY too much time on his hands.

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Subject: Re: earthviewer (was Re: whoa}

On 9/8/02 8:09 PM, "Gary Lawrence Murphy" <garym@canada.com> wrote:
> My car is only just over 1.5 meters across and maybe 3 meters long, so
> that means roughly six pixels total surface area. You might find a
> 16-wheeler this way, but how often do people misplace a 16-wheeler
> such that it is _that_ important to get old images of the terrain?
> Since they can't send up aircraft to update images in realtime every
> time, how is this different from just releasing the map on DVDs? Why
> wireless?

It seems that several people are missing the point that this is NOT an image
database. It is high-resolution topological data rendered in three
dimensions. Images are overlayed on the topological data to help people
navigate familiar terrain visually. In other words, it is not intended as a
wannabe spy satellite. Rather it is a very accurate three dimensional model
of the earth's surface. When a particular region in question is covered in
a city, the buildings in the city are mapped as though they are part of the
earth's surface. The part that makes the app killer is that you can map all
sorts of data layers on top of their core topological data.

Got it?

-James Rogers
 jamesr@best.com


Subject: Re: Sorting

> > You're probably running exmh on a local machine. I'm running it on a
> > very remote machine. In this scenario, the mime handling is weak.
>
> Nope. I run exmh on my desktops at home and at work with the resulting
> exmh windows being displayed on both my work and home desktops (gratis
> SSH X11 forwarding).

I run exmh routinely from home (broadband) using an XWindows Client tunneled through ssh under <ahem> WinXP. It works very well in this fashion.

FWIW, I use Eudora under Winder$ because it's less of a virus magnet. :)

There's more to the story why I run Winder$, but that's really off-topic and I'm already guilty!

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Subject: Re: [SAdev] testing with less rules

jm@jmason.org (Justin Mason) writes:

>>> DATE_IN_PAST_48_96
>>> SPAM_PHRASE_00_01
>>> SPAM_PHRASE_01_02
>>> SPAM_PHRASE_02_03
>>> SPAM_PHRASE_03_05
>>> SPAM_PHRASE_05_08

> I was thinking of just removing those particular rules, but keeping the
> other entries in the range, since they're proving too "noisy" to be
> effective. But I'd be willing to keep those ones in, all the same. What
> do you think? Matt/Craig, thoughts?

I think I could handle commenting out the lowest SPAM_PHRASE_XX_YY
scores. If the GA could handle this sort of thing so they'd
automatically be zeroed, I'd feel better since the ranges could change
next time the phrase list is regenerated or the algorithm tweaked.

I think we need to understand why DATE_IN_PAST_48_96 is so low before
we remove it. The two rules on either side perform quite well.

>> And here are the rules that seem like they should be better or should
>> be recoverable:

>>> FROM_MISSING
>>> GAPPY_TEXT
>>> INVALID_MSGID
>>> MIME_NULL_BLOCK
>>> SUBJ_MISSING

> well, I don't like SUBJ_MISSING, I reckon there's a world of mails from
> cron jobs (e.g.) which hit it.

Okay, drop SUBJ_MISSING.

> But, yes, the others for sure should be recoverable, and I'm sure there's
> more.

Probably a few, those seemed like the best prospects to me.

> BTW do you agree with the proposed methodology (ie. remove the rules and
> bugzilla each one?)

I only want a bugzilla ticket for each one if people are okay with
quick WONTFIX closes on the ones deemed unworthy of recovery.

If you could put the stats for each rule in the ticket somehow (should
be automatable with email at the very least), it would help.

Dan


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Subject: [SAtalk] [OT] SpamAssassin figures...

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Subject: Re: problems with apt update

Once upon a time, Mark wrote :

> Hiya, I always seem to get errors when I do an "apt update", is this a
> problem on the repository itself, or on my end, or possibly a timeout in
> the connection due to my connection being a crappy modem?
>
> [root@spawn root]# apt-get update
> Hit http://apt.nixia.no redhat/7.2/i386/base/pkglist.gnomehide
> Hit http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/i386/base/pkglist.os
> Ign http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/i386 release.os
> Err http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/i386/base/pkglist.updates
> Bad header line
> Hit http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/i386 release.updates
> Err http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/i386/base/pkglist.freshrpms
> 400 Bad Request
> Err http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/i386 release.freshrpms
> Bad header line
> Hit http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/i386/base/srclist.freshrpms
> Ign http://apt.nixia.no redhat/7.2/i386 release.gnomehide
> Ign http://apt.nixia.no redhat/7.2/i386/base/mirrors
> Hit http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/i386 release.freshrpms
[...]

It works for me (it should works with or without the "en" subdirectory).
Does it always give you the same error each time? Do you use an proxy
server?

[root@python root]# apt-get update
Hit http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/en/i386/base/srclist.os
Hit http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/en/i386 release.os
Hit http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/en/i386/base/srclist.updates
Hit http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/en/i386 release.updates
Get:1 http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/en/i386/base/pkglist.os [1035kB]
Hit http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/en/i386 release.os
Get:2 http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/en/i386/base/pkglist.updates
[331kB] Hit http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/en/i386 release.updates
Hit http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/en/i386/base/pkglist.freshrpms
Hit http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/en/i386 release.freshrpms
Hit http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/en/i386/base/srclist.os
Hit http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/en/i386 release.os
Hit http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/en/i386/base/srclist.updates
Hit http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/en/i386 release.updates
Hit http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/en/i386/base/srclist.freshrpms
Hit http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/en/i386 release.freshrpms
Ign http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/en/$(ARCH)/base/mirrors
Ign http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/en/$(ARCH)/base/mirrors
Ign http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/7.2/en/$(ARCH)/base/mirrors
Fetched 1366kB in 1m16s (17.9kB/s)
Processing File Dependencies... Done
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
W: http://apt.freshrpms.net/ will not be authenticated.
W: http://apt.freshrpms.net/ will not be authenticated.
W: http://apt.freshrpms.net/ will not be authenticated.
[root@python root]#

Matthias

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Subject: Football players addicted to video football

URL: http://boingboing.net/#85531549
Date: Not supplied

Pro football players are addicted to football games, as a means of
wish-fulfillment -- by "managing" the team, they can be free of the rule of
their coaches and bosses. Maybe this explains the amazing success of The Sims,
which, on the face of it, should be dull as hell: While away your free time
away from the office by simulating an existence as a shlub with a day-job and a
drive to acquire consumer goods on credit. You'd think it'd be the last thing
you want to do. But it's not. When you're a Sim, you can tweak your existence a
smidge, discover what life would be like if you took Path A instead of Path B,
try the alternate universe on for size. The idea of football players playing
themselves in licensed video games is neat and recursive, like the episode of
the Simpsons when Mr. Burns runs into Krusty buying Krusty-O's at the
supermarket and asks where he can find the "Burns-O's."

 "It's always a trip," Carr says. "The first time I saw myself in a video
 game was in college (at Fresno State) when I walked into a Best Buy store
 and some kid was playing with me. That kind of trips you out a little bit."

 For every 12-year-old kid who spends countless hours in front of a
 television playing video games, there's a group of 300-pound offensive
 linemen challenging each other at everything from Madden NFL 2003 to the
 action-packed "Halo: Combat Evolved."

Link[1] Discuss[2] (_Thanks, Lawrence[3]!_)

[1] http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/sports/1604474
[2] http://www.quicktopic.com/boing/H/XWcdy9AcBAh
[3] http://www.io.com/~lawrence


Subject: Re: Pluck and Luck

At 5:29 PM -0700 on 9/23/02, John Hall wrote:

> Rawls claims Merit doesn't exist.

Nozick claims that Rawls doesn't exist.

God says that Nozick is dead?

:-).

Cheers,
RAH
Quine, of course, read the Herald, not the Globe. With him and Nozick went
political "diversity" at Hahvahd...
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Subject: Usability Problems with Mozilla

URL: http://www.mozillazine.org/weblogs/hyatt/#85409355
Date: Not supplied

Blake blogs[1] about how mpt[2] wants Mozilla to look just like MSIE. I have to
admit, the evidence is pretty compelling. I recall someone asking me, "Do you
really agree with mpt's Top 10 list? He's quoted you at the top of the list!"

Do I agree that those ten items mpt mentions are the top ten problems? Of
course not. No two people will have the same top ten problems. Also keep in
mind that mpt and I can agree that something is a problem without necessarily
agreeing on the solution to the problem. Maybe we have different ideas
regarding how to solve a particular issue, but we at least both believe it is
an issue that needs to be addressed. That's something.

To cover the list specifically:

- Navigator chrome structure - While I don't necessarily agree with mpt's
proposed default configuration, I do agree that the chrome structure is
painfully restrictive, and that customizable toolbars need to be implemented in
order for us to acquire the flexibility to deal with this problem.

- Speed - can't argue with this, except to say that cutting out a lot of the
useless UI and features from the chrome helps substantially. Reduce bloat, gain
speed.

- Text editing - if you use Chimera on the Mac, you'll see that the textfield
widget is easily the most painful part of the entire application. It's buggy,
slow, misbehaves, and doesn't edit the way you'd expect. This is IMO Chimera's
top usability problem.

- Message display - Yes. No argument here.

- Search - Yeah, it's a mess. Don't know if it would be in my top ten, but it's
a mess.

- Menu structure - This gets back to my blog about how the apps should be
separated. The menu structure has been complicated in order to deal with
multiple applications. A clean separation naturally simplifies the menus (e.g.,
you can eliminate the New submenu easily).

- Migration - A problem, but IMO not one of the top ten facing Mozilla.

- Context menus - mpt complains about two-click context menus, and yet, the OS
default on Win32 (overwhelmingly) is to bring up a context menu on a mouse up.
If you don't like it, complain about Win32, but don't cite this as a Mozilla
usability problem when we're following the conventions of the operating system.
(We simply listen for the WM_CONTEXTMENU message. That message fires when Win32
wants to fire it.)

- Validation - Err, no. Not a usability problem. To the average bear, this is
completely irrelevant.

- Preferences - IMO this should be much higher on the list. Preferences are a
tangled pathetic mess. Again, separating prefs for individual apps into unique
dialogs would simplify things a great deal, but we should also remove nearly
half the preferences that exist from the GUI. Mozilla is ridiculously
overconfigurable.

[1] http://www.blakeross.com/archives/2002_08_18_index.html#80418641
[2] http://mpt.phrasewise.com


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Subject: UCI Creative Writing

More articles that support my fantasy that Irvine is the
center of the universe. We've got the corner on electric
cars, fuel cells, two types of Nobel winning physics,
outside the box computer science, and lot of creative writers.

UCI's creative writing department has been in the
news a lot over the course of the last decade. Some
quotes from the article[1]:

 "In 1992, Newsweek called UCI's fiction writing workshop
 'the hottest writing program in the country.' Now it's
 exponentially hotter, thanks only in part to Sebold's daring
 and uncannily timely novel.

The novel they are talking about is Alice Sebold's "The
Lovely Bones" which is on the way to the top of the
NY Times best-sellers list. My uncle used to tease me
about UCI (being a USC graduate from '54) that nobody
knew who UC Irvine was just two states over. In fact,
I used to refer to UCI as one of the lesser known UC
schools, and when I went off to college in 1985, my
relatives told everyone I was off to Cal State Irvine.
I took a class as an undergrad by one of the department's
faculty called "the art of writing fiction". If there
was ever any two classes that helped contributed to writing
my dissertation, it was that one which taught me how to
get the writing flowing and my high school typing class
which taught me how to type really fast.

One of the advantages they cite in the article is that they
seem to take a chance on the "not-so-sure" bet, but according
to the article, the number of UCI graduates that have gone on
to write best sellers and the handful that feed the film industry
is creating a viscious cycle that lures more talent which
creates the right writing ecosystem, which churns out more
success stories which lures more talent.

Greg

[1] http://www.ocregister.com/sitearchives/2002/8/25/news/uci00825cci1.shtml
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