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> From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
> Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 14:22:46 -0400
>
> I'm perfectly willing to can-opener that code and see where the CPU is
> going, but only if nobody is slapping their forehead and mumbling about
> a brown-paper-bag bug... ;)

As I mentioned in my email to Anders, it's certainly in my code and I don't
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Subject: Re: [SAtalk] My SA went crazy.

Jesus Climent said:

> d output: Bareword found where operator expected at (eval 11) line 95,
> near "25FREEMEGS_URL_uri_test" (Missing operator before
> FREEMEGS_URL_uri_test?) Bareword found whe

> Is that a bug or is a fault in my system?

looks like there's an out-of-date copy of the rules files, on your system.
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Subject: [Spambayes] Deployment

On 6 Sep 2002 at 10:31, Guido van Rossum wrote:

> your mail, and gives you only the non-spam. To train it, you'd only need
> to send it the false negatives somehow; it can assume that anything is
> ham that you don't say is spam within 48 hours.

I have folks who leave their email programs running 24 hours a day, constantly polling
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ham on sunday night. (Friday night seems to be the most popular time)

> - Your idea here.

Ultimately I'd like to see tight integration into the "most popular email clients".. As a
stop-gap to the auto-ham ..

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On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Russell Turpin wrote:

> Don't swallow too quickly what you have read about
> more traditional cultures, today or in the past. Do

I don't swallow ;>

I was just offering anecdotal first-hand experiences from a number of
cultures indicating 1) we apparently have a problem 2) which requires more
than ad hoc hand-waving approach (it's trivial! it's obvious! all we have
to do is XY!).

> we have any statistics on the poor man's divorce from
> centuries past? Are you so sure that the kids in 18th

That's easy. Divorce didn't happen. The church and the society looked
after that. Only relatively recently that privilege was granted to kings,
and only very recently to commoners.

> century England were any more "functional" than those
> today? What about 20th century Saudi Arabia?

Is Saudi Arabia a meaningful emigration source?

> >At least from the viewpoint of demographics sustainability and
> >counterpressure to gerontocracy and resulting innovatiophobia we're doing
> >something wrong.
>
> Granting your first two points, I'm skeptical about
> the last. Do you see ANY signs that America specifically

I wasn't talking about the US specifically. (Though the demographics
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facing right now).

> or the west generally are suffering from lack of
> innovation, vis-a-vis youth nations such as Iran? The

1) I'm seeing lack of innovation, and -- more disturbing -- trend towards
even less innovation by an autocatalytic process (gerontocracy favors
gerontocracy).

> last I read, the third generation of the revolution all
> (a) want to move to America, and (b) failing that, are
> importing everything they can American.

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Subject: Re: Entrepreneurs

On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Robert Harley wrote:

--]It's an amusing anecdote, I don't know if it's true or not, but certainly
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Subject: Re: use new apt to do null to RH8 upgrade?

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> Is it possible to use new apt to do (null) to RH8 upgrade?

Possible - should be, it was possible to update to (null) from RH7.3 with
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RHL.

>
> Even if it's possible, are there good reasons why maybe I should not do
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It's possible but not supported by RH. I've upgraded both my laptop and my
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Subject: Re: Help! I've lost my exmh-unseen window!

>
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>

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Evangelicals' threat to new archbishop

Direct action threat over liberal views on sexuality

Stephen Bates, religious affairs correspondent
Tuesday October 8, 2002
The Guardian

Evangelical fundamentalists last night stepped up their campaign to oust
Rowan Williams, the incoming Archbishop of Canterbury, before he even takes
up his post, by threatening to take "direct action" against him.
The council of the Church Society, the Church of England's oldest
evangelical body, joined a younger evangelical pressure group called Reform,
which is also opposed to Dr Williams, in calling on him to recant his
supposedly liberal views on sexuality or stand down.
Following an emergency meeting, the 167-year-old society, whose leaders met
the archbishop last week, proclaimed their continued opposition to his
appointment and called on all Anglicans to spurn him.
The move is the latest stage of an increasingly aggressive attempt to
destabilise the new archbishop, whose leftwing political views are regarded
with deep suspicion by the conservative fringes of the evangelical movement.
Some evangelicals object to Dr Williams's acknowledgement that he has
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have sex outside marriage need not necessarily be spurned. The new
archbishop has repeatedly assured them that he respects the canons of the
church.
Nevertheless, the society said: "It is clear that he prefers his private
judgment to the voice of scripture, to the voice of tradition and to the
common mind of the church. As such he can only be a focus of disunity.
"The council... called upon loyal Anglicans to pray specifically that Rowan
Williams would see the error in his teaching, change his views or stand
down," it said.
The society claimed to have drawn up an "action plan," including calling on
bishops and primates of the 70 million worldwide Anglican communion, of
which archbishops of Canterbury are the leaders, to distance themselves from
Dr Williams's doctrinal and ethical position. It promised it would be
"taking steps towards appropriate direct action".
It added that Dr Williams remained on the editorial board of a journal
called Theology and Sexuality which, six months ago, published articles
allegedly commending homosexual behaviour.
Despite its claim, the society does not represent the common mind of the
church. Dr Williams, currently Archbishop of Wales, was chosen by the crown
appointments commission of church members, including evangelicals, and his
appointment was endorsed by the prime minister and the Queen.
He is due to succeed George Carey, who retires this month, and will be
formally enthroned at Canterbury cathedral in February.
Asked what form direct action might take, the Rev George Curry, the
society's chairman, said: "Watch this space." Presumably it could involve a
small minority of parishes repudiating the new archbishop and seeking
alternative oversight or even demonstrations at services where Dr Williams
is present.
Church of England bishops, who have hitherto largely kept their heads down
during the row, are meeting next week to discuss their response to the
evangelical extremists' challenge, which appears to have grown in the
absence of a robust rebuttal.
A letter by senior theologians in today's Guardian, however, repudiates the
evangelicals' tactics, calling them unseemly and contrary to biblical
teaching.
On the BBC's Thought for the Day yesterday, Angela Tilby, vice-principal of
Westcott House, Cambridge, accused Dr Williams's opponents of presumption
and blackmail. "It is in fact a thoroughly aggressive way to behave. It is
attempting to force an issue by emotional violence... manipulating to get
your way is often preferable to painstaking negotiation," she said.
Last week, Dr Williams said he was deeply saddened. "Matters of sexuality
should not have the priority or centrality that Reform and the Church
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appointment since so many, including evangelicals, have urged him to take
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MR MARTIN FRANCIS
ABIDJAN COTE DIVOIRE
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TEL:+225 05775748.

 URGENT AND NOBLE PROPOSAL

ATTN: DIRECTOR.
DEAR ,

I wish to extend my greeting to you and your entire
family. I got your contact from the ivoirian chamber
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was as a result of spiritual attack by our family
member who hated her just because of my fathers
wealth.
Moreover, they tried their own part as well against my
father and myself but negative because God almighty
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My Dear ,

Good day.This very confidential request should come as a surprise to you.But it is because of the nature of what is happening to me and my family urged me to contact you, and I quite understand that this is not the best way to contact you because of the nature of my request and the attention it requires.I got your contact information from your country's information directory during my desperate search for someone who can assist me secretly and confidentially in relocating and managing some family fortunes.

My name is Mr.Michael Kamah, the second son of Mr.Smith Kamah, of Beitbridge Zimbabwe.At the height of the present political crises in our country,in which the white farmers in our country are being slained and ripped off their belongings by the supporters of our president,Mr.Robert G.Mugabe,in their efforts to reclaim all the white owned farms in our country,my father and my elder brother were brutally slained to a painful death on the 13th of february,2002, in their struggle to protect some white farmers who ran to take refuge in our house.My father,during his life on earth was a prominent business man who trades on diamond and gold from some foreign countries .He publicly opposes the crude policies and crime against humanity on the white farmers by Mr.Robert Mugabe and his followers,which they enforced media law restrictions to protect their wicked acts.That not being enough,the president and his followers after winning the last undemocratic elections decided to block and !
confiscate all accounts and assets of our black indigenes[that included my fathers assets and accounts] who oppose his policies and render support to these white farmers,along with the assets of these white farmers themselves,that are being presently confiscated.I therefore decided to move my mother and younger sister to the Republic of South Africa,where we presently live without anything and without any source of livelyhood.

During my fathers life on earth,he had deposited the sum of Eight Million and Six Hundred Thousand United States Dollars[$8.600.000.00],in a trunk box with a Finance and Security Company in the Republic of Togo for a cash and carry Diamond and Gold business with some foreign business customers, awaiting instructions to be moved to its destination,which he never completed before he met his untimely death on that faithful day.In view of this and as the only surviving son of my father,and with the present clamp down,killing and confiscation of his assets as one of those who render support to the white farmers in our country,I therefore humbly wish to inform you of my intentions to use your name and adress in making sure that this fund is lifted out of Africa finally,to the Europe office of the finance company and also seek for your honest and trustworthy assistance to help me clear and accommodate this money over there before it is dictated out and blocked by the present Mugabe's!
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Now this is what I actually want you to do for me;

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Please,I hope you will grant and view this very request with favour and much understanding of our situation now,and will be a very honest and reliable person to deal with.And also bearing in mind the confidential nature of this my request,I emphasize please that you keep every bit of it to yourself so as to protect my familys future and yourself rendering this help.Thanking you in anticipation of your urgent response as soon as you read this very request.

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Subject: Re: bad focus/click behaviours

On Fri Sep 13 2002 at 07:46, "Kevin Oberman" wrote:

> > > What is an example of an "anything else" that it fails for for you?
> >
> > Everything else :) I can't even mark text in an exmh message window
> > and then paste it into a terminal window, the cut buffer seems to be
> > completely empty (and its previous contents are no longer there
> > either).

> (This is all guess work and may be bogus.)
>
> Are you running Gnome 1.4? I had similar problems as did several
> co-workers. Updating my Gnome components has fixed it for me and
> others, although I can't say exactly which component did the
> trick. Gnomecore or gtk would seem most likely, but it may have been
> something else.

Indeed I am (this workstation is rh7.2 with gnome1.4, it [mostly?]
works, so I hadn't bothered to updated it to 7.3:)

> In any case, I have not seen the problem for quite a while, now.

So upgrading gnome will fix the problem, it's not an exmh/tktcl
issue.

> R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer

Thanks.

Cheers
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It was the Spring of 1979.

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Subject: Re: Nessus?

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>
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Subject: [Spambayes] test sets?

[Guido, on the classifier pickle on SF]
> I downloaded and played with it a bit, but had no time to do anything
> systematic.

Cool!

> It correctly recognized a spam that slipped through SA.

Ditto.

> But it also identified as spam everything in my inbox that had any
> MIME structure or HTML parts, and several messages in my saved 'zope
> geeks' list that happened to be using MIME and/or HTML.

Do you know why? The strangest implied claim there is that it hates MIME
independent of HTML. For example, the spamprob of 'content-type:text/plain'
in that pickle is under 0.21. 'content-type:multipart/alternative' gets
0.93, but that's not a killer clue, and one bit of good content will more
than cancel it out.

WRT hating HTML, possibilities include:

1. It really had to do with something other than MIME/HTML.

2. These are pure HTML (not multipart/alternative with a text/plain part),
 so that the tags aren't getting stripped. The pickled classifier
 despises all hints of HTML due to its c.l.py heritage.

3. These are multipart/alternative with a text/plain part, but the
 latter doesn't contain the same text as the text/html part (for
 example, as Anthony reported, perhaps the text/plain part just
 says something like "This is an HMTL message.").

If it's #2, it would be easy to add an optional bool argument to tokenize()
meaning "even if it is pure HTML, strip the tags anyway". In fact, I'd like
to do that and default it to True. The extreme hatred of HTML on tech lists
strikes me as, umm, extreme <wink>.

> So I guess I'll have to retrain it (yes, you told me so :-).

That would be a different experiment. I'm certainly curious to see whether
Jeremy's much-worse-than-mine error rates are typical or aberrant.