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| Toll-Free Woes January 26, 1987 |
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| >From Time Magazine; reprinted in the February 1987 Issue of CO Magazine |
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| While Oral Roberts struggles with budgets, fundamentalist preacher Jerry |
| Falwell faces a different kind of money pinch. The Lynchburg, VA, |
| televangelist has long used toll-free phone numbers to assist viewers seeking |
| spiritual help. |
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| For many months Falwell foes, aware that each phone-in cost $1, have purposely |
| clogged his lines. An Atlantan programmed his computer to dial Falwell every |
| 30 seconds. Before Southern Bell stepped in, the stunt cost Falwell $750,000. |
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| Late last year, the Daily Cardinal student newspaper at the University of |
| Wisconsin -- Madison ran a column advocating "telephone terrorism" and listed |
| several targets, including Falwell. |
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| The TV preacher estimates that annoyance calls cost him more than $1 million |
| last year, not counting lost donations. Falwell, who is considering legal |
| action, regards the calls as "unlawful activities" that do "injury to the |
| cause of Christ." |
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| [Well now...isn't that special? And just where did all these people get the |
| idea to do "injury to the cause of Christ?" From me, Knight Lightning? No, I |
| don't think so. From oh maybe Phantom Phreaker? No, I don't think so. |
| Possibly Lucifer 666, but the big question is... Could it be... SATAN!!!?] |
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| Voice numbers: Are They Really Necessary? March 5, 1987 |
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| A recent series of events on ShadowSpawn BBS has attracted much attention in |
| the hack/phreak community. It seems that the sysop, The Psychic Warlord, |
| denied access to Lex Luthor, Kerrang Khan, and Silver Spy because of their |
| failure to leave valid voice phone numbers. The following messages have been |
| taken from ShadowSpawn BBS. [Some posts have been re-formatted]. |
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| Name: The Psychic Warlord #1 |
| Date: 6:36 pm Thu Feb 26, 1987 |
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| Alright goddamn it, I'm so fucking pissed off that I'm just about ready to |
| say Fuck It and take down the board for good. Why? Seems that few people are |
| happy with the way I run this board. No, not really with the way I run it, |
| but more like the way I choose to validate my users. Ok, fine... You don't |
| like it then get the fuck out and quit complaining. |
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| I set certain rules that people have to abide by to get access to this |
| board. Very simple fucking rules. And now I'm finding out that people don't |
| want to abide by these rules, and basically tell me I'm fucked in the head for |
| having and going by them. What rules? For one thing, and this is the major |
| bitch-point here, new users (no matter WHO THE FUCK they are) are *REQUIRED* |
| to leave a valid voice number where I or Ctrl can reach them at for |
| validation. No big fucking deal... Just a goddamn phone number. |
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| "Oh, but I can't give you my voice number. I'm a hacker, and I do untold |
| amounts of illegal things and I can't risk my number getting out." Riiight. |
| Like I'm really some fucking Fed who's gonna bust yer ass, or some geek who |
| gives out peoples phone numbers to any-fucking-body who asks. BULLSHIT! |
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| I'm the Sysop of a (hopefully) respected BBS, and along with that goes a |
| certain responsibility. I'm not about to go passing out peoples numbers. *I* |
| have respect for other hackers privacy, unlike some people who choose to |
| invade mine just for the fucking hell of it. I require that new users leave |
| their voice numbers for a number of GOOD reasons: |
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| 1) Trust -- If they can trust me with their voice numbers, then I can trust |
| them with access to my board. I need that kind of trust between |
| me and my users. If they feel that they can't trust me enough to |
| give me a lousy phone number, then how in God's name am I supposed |
| to be expected to trust them at all?? My ass is on the line just |
| as much (if not more) than any user of this board! |
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| 2) Security -- Ok... So how do I know if someone is really a Fed or not? I |
| don't! I go by instinct. Having a person's voice number let's |
| me call them for validation and get to know them a helluva lot |
| better than I could through e-mail. Plus, if suspicion ever |
| arose about a user of my board being a Fed or not, how could I |
| check this out? If I don't have their voice number, I have no |
| leads as to where to find or who the fuck this person really |
| is. Now I don't go checking everyone on the board via the |
| numbers they give me. I have NEVER had to do that for ANY |
| user, but the possibility is there. And rather than throw a |
| possibly innocent person off the board merely on a hunch, we |
| might be able to prove whether or not it's true. This is |
| extremely hypothetical, but like I said... the possibility is |
| there. |
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| Ok, so why the hell should I have to require that established people, like |
| Lex Luthor and Silver Spy, leave valid voice numbers? Is it fair to the other |
| users? Hell no. If I required only certain people to give me their numbers, |
| then what does that do to their trust in me?? It's like me saying, "Well, I |
| don't trust you... I don't know you that well. You have to sacrifice more |
| than these guys to get access." That's BULLSHIT, and I'm not about to do it. |
| If one person is required to give a valid voice number, then every damn user |
| is required to! |
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| I've been getting a lot of shit the past couple days because I've denied |
| access to some very well known and respected people in the hack/phreak world. |
| Namely Lex Luthor, Silver Spy, and Kerrang Khan. I denied all of them access |
| because they all refused to leave a voice number. Fine. Then they don't get |
| access. Ctrl [Ctrl-C is a cosysop on ShadowSpawn] said I was crazy. Taran |
| said pretty much the same. Taran also tried to get me to change my mind... |
| to condescend, or go against what I believe in and how I believe this board |
| should be run. He (Taran) said that by my denying Lex and the others access |
| that I would be hurting this board more than helping it. ***I DON'T GIVE A |
| DAMN*** |
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| I'm not impressed in the least with any of those peoples reputations. I |
| never have been a "groupie" and I'm not about to start now. Whether or not |
| they are good or not isn't the issue here, and some people don't seem to |
| realize that. Yes, Lex is good. He's well known. He's even a nice guy... |
| I've talked to him before and personally I like him. But I don't play |
| favorites for anyone. Not Lex, not Silver Spy, and not Kerrang Khan. Nobody. |
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| What really pissed me off, and I should have told Taran that I resented it |
| at the time, is that TK said that apparently this board is "elite". That I |
| consider this board to be too good. Personally I think this fucking board is |
| overrated, and yes Taran... I resented that remark. I can't remember exactly |
| what he said, but it was something like, "In your logon message you have |
| 'We're not ELITE, we're just cool as hell,' but apparently you ARE elite." |
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| This board isn't "elite" and if I come off seeing that way sometimes, it's |
| only because people are getting half the picture of what I'm doing. |
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| Ok, so I deny Lex Luthor access to this board. That's all you people seem |
| to think about. The actual denying of access. You think, "How can he do |
| that?! What gall! He must be a real egotistic bastard to think that Lex |
| Luthor isn't good enough to be on this board!" If you think that, and most of |
| you have thought only that, then you're fucked in the head. |
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| Yes, I realize who these people are! Yes I know their reputations and how |
| they are renowned for their skills as hackers and phreakers... But like I |
| said before, that's not the issue. It never was. I *KNOW* how good these |
| people are. I *KNOW* about their reputations and I respect them for it, but I |
| don't care. That's not why they've been denied access! |
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| When I deny someone access to this board it's usually for one of two |
| reasons; |
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| 1) They left a false voice number or |
| 2) They either blew off or left really crappy answers to the filter. |
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| Personally I'd be thrilled to have Lex or Silver Spy on the board... and |
| any of a number of people. But these people can't find it in themselves to |
| trust me. If they can't trust me, then I can't trust them. It's as simple as |
| that. |
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| I'm not about to let anyone on this board that I can't trust. It's not |
| fair to the other users, and it's damn stupid of me. I run this board the |
| best way I know how. I do what I do in respect to new user validations |
| because it's the best way, through trial and error, that I have found to |
| handle it. If people can't respect the way in which I choose to run my board |
| then I'd appreciate it if they never called. And when regular users of my |
| board start questioning the way I do thing, and telling me that I'm WRONG for |
| doing things the way I believe they should be done, then I really start to |
| wonder what the fuck I'm doing it for at all. I'm not a quitter, and I don't |
| like the idea of giving up and taking down the board. I'm going to run this |
| board the way I think is best, and I'm not about to conform to what other |
| people think I should do. |
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| I've probably stepped on some toes and offended some people with this, but |
| that's just too damn bad. I hate fighting the topic but I'll fight it if I |
| have to. |
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| --==The Psychic Warlord==-- |
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| 37/50: Take a fucking valium |
| Name: Taran King #45 |
| Date: 9:02 am Sat Feb 28, 1987 |
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| You're known for an explosive temper, PW as well as sometimes being extremely |
| irrational. My policy is to let people on the my board with voice numbers |
| only. Through the history, I've made maybe 5 exceptions. Some of 'em include |
| Lex, Spy (at first), Tabas, Videosmith, and Phucked Agent 04. Now, I never |
| got anything out of PA04 because he got a "call" soon after he got on the |
| board, but the rest of the members have contributed extremely well to the |
| board. I just made sure I knew it was really them by referencing and cross |
| referencing. |
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| If your morals are that unbendable, PW, then you need to relook at the purpose |
| of this board. If it's to spread phreak/hack knowledge as you said on the |
| phone, then to have those people on with the experience that they have would |
| hardly hinder the board. I seriously doubt anyone would feel offended if any |
| of the forementioned people got on here without leaving a valid voice number, |
| being that they're not on any other board with a voice number. |
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| I know that Lex is not giving out his number to even the best of his |
| friends. Spy is really careful about it these days. Not so sure about |
| Kerrang but he's travelling about now so he's not in one place for too long |
| nowadays. It's your board and I was trying to give you some constructive |
| criticism, but you took it the wrong way. You don't have to claim you're |
| ELITE to be elite. Elite merely means that you've got the respected members |
| of the community on board. Well, you've got 'em. If you don't like it, I |
| suggest you go through and purge the log like a big dog. Actually, fuck it. |
| I'm tired of getting into arguments for trying to help someone. Feel free to |
| delete my account if you feel that I've not contributed enough information to |
| the board, or if you've rethought the purpose and decide that it's not for |
| what I've contributed, dump me. Fuck dis |
| -TK |
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| 44/50: Well... |
| Name: The Psychic Warlord #1 |
| Date: 4:57 pm Sun Mar 01, 1987 |
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| I'm glad that some people agree with me on this. I can understand Lex's |
| point of view, too. I can also remember a time when I myself refrained from |
| giving my number to any sysops. But... I've changed my point of view |
| considerably after living the Sysop life for well over 1.5 years. Now if I |
| ever wanted access to a board, and the Sysop of that board asked for my voice |
| number, I'd give it to him. |
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| I've given Lex access to this message base for a short period of time so |
| that he can check out the discussion. He called me voice the other day and we |
| talked for a while about this whole biz. I'd like him, and Spy, on the board, |
| and possibly they'll change their minds. If not, that's cool. I'm just going |
| to let the whole thing kind of slide from here on out. If they change their |
| minds, great... Well, Adios. |
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| --==The Psychic Warlord==-- |
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| Kerrang Khan, when notified that he must leave a voice number, said "there is |
| no reason Psychic Warlord would need any user's phone number." He also stated |
| that the fact that PW insisted on voice numbers was very "suspicious." |
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| Silver Spy, when notified that he must leave a voice number, never bothered |
| calling again. |
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| Lex understood the whole situation and remained cool. He said he could see |
| why a sysop would need voice numbers of his users. Lex was worried about the |
| board he left it on getting busted and the authorities getting his number. So |
| PW, in response to this deleted all users phone numbers from the board and |
| encrypted them in a hidden sub-directory. Now the numbers are there only and |
| are totally hidden. |
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